Disclaimer
Transcripts may (read: definitely will) contain typos. We use software to transcribe the show and American artificial intelligence is apparently not intelligent enough to understand the Irish accent; go figure!
In time, if people read these, we'll have them fully proof read by human intelligence and corrected for grammar and syntax.
_________
[00:00:00] Chris: [00:00:00] Hello? Can I get you a Neo Chava multinational? No. So we got to, uh, introduce ourselves in many languages. This is the one DMC podcast. I am Chris. It's a show where myself and my actual psychotherapist sit down with very interesting guests. And talk about the mind, body and life in general. Now, how many of you ever go and against the grain tried something unusual and were told it was silly.
[00:00:28] How many of you said yes to this question? Persevere, despite the naysayers, I sincerely doubt there's more than a handful of you who have had enough grit and self belief. Can you something that your peers ridiculed you for? Rob lips did just that as a fitness influencer first, it would mean my friends and I made fun of Rob.
[00:00:45] As I admitted in the episode, when he started gaining older in Earnin for what we consider to be a vain bodybuilding content. Back when Rob first hit the scene, only Americans were allowed to go to the gym for vanity's sake. I was Irish. I decided primary reasons that was functioning. Like it, let us do some [00:01:00] weight loss or strength.
[00:01:01] And Dan was okay to wear tight t-shirts and show off the guns. Come to realize that these knee jerk reactions or responses, outliers trying something different are just lazy. They're largely about us feeding eight we're tribal. We Mark what? We don't understand a worse or jealous of. The very guy I call the shaper or the person I myself turned you in after a few years of prioritizing the office and takeaways over the gym and gain more weight than I was comfortable with.
[00:01:25] And, uh, I needed to learn how to diet again. So it's funny how life can be circular. So everybody has a religion nowadays. And Rob is about as famous as you can get in fitness. If you don't know who he is, I guarantee your kids do. He's an internet, celebrity fitness entrepreneur across his accounts. He has well over a million followers.
[00:01:44] Think about that. Many people rolled away the fitness content in Instagram and YouTube until it became a tsunami sticking to his passion. He disregarded the tractors and had been sizable and loyal followings. He's now sponsored by the American companies. He idolizes younger guy. And he's befriended the people.
[00:01:59] He [00:02:00] looked at it in, in the industry. People like Christian Guzman, max tuning Moraine. If you're into fitness, YouTube, you know, know these guys, Robin cameras vibrant, positive. And I wanted to chat to understand if the off-camera Rob was in any way different. We'll hear for yourself over the course of the interview.
[00:02:17] That Rob is just like you were right. Except he has hundreds of thousands of people judging his, every loop, every picture he posted an Instagram, every video what's up, people will scrutinize our praise. Him. I don't know many people who have a job where hundreds of thousands of people give them feedback every time.
[00:02:35] So when you make a living off the image of perfection, you're seemingly not allowed to show any weakness. My hope is that as the episode goes on and you listen, Rob becomes more relaxed, you know, was that he opens up. He starts to talk more freely about how his mind works and how he calibrates his life to feel contained living through the lens.
[00:02:52] Some of his answers to our questions may surprise you some won't overall. I really like Rob. Behind your arms and the time there's a young guy, trying to figure it out, just [00:03:00] like me and he's doing it the best way. He knows how one rep at a time, I for one will continue to feed off his energy and to learn from his channel.
[00:03:08] So this is a great episode. Robin's a great guy. It's more high energy than we're used to. And there's a lot of laughs mainly from Rob. Um, but I really enjoyed it. Really enjoyed it. I know Dan did too. So this is the one DMC podcast with Rob. Lipsett take a seat, get your coffee, turn on the car, radio, Logan, your Bluetooth, whatever.
[00:03:32] Enjoy the episode. That's cool.
[00:03:37] Entering the currency to sun to the
[00:03:41] a morning, couple for the soul.
[00:03:46] welcome to the one DMC podcast. First of all, I just want to say thank you very much for, for giving us your time in between golfing lifting and whatever else you're doing. I'm surprised you had the time.
[00:03:56] Rob: [00:03:56] Thank you so much. Uh,
[00:03:58] Chris: [00:03:58] but we are [00:04:00] starting to, to begin the show now with something that Nolan and I begin our sessions with.
[00:04:03] So just to kind of give you a preamble, um, is my actual therapist. Uh, I've been going to therapy with NOLA for probably five years now. Um, and he always starts off, uh, our sessions with a question and it's a question we all have a default answer to. Um, and normally it's I'm grant. I'm fine. Okay. But I'm just going to ask, how are you doing or how are you generally right now?
[00:04:26] Um, and I want you to think before you give you the answer. Okay. Cause I know your default is going to be your positive dude, so you're going to be like, I'm fucking great. But think about it, you know, uh, give us, give us the answer in as honest, the way as you can.
[00:04:38] Rob: [00:04:38] Hmm. Definitely could be better. Yeah.
[00:04:42] That'd probably be my answer for sure. Yeah, of course. I'd be bad to say like, Oh yeah, I'm always the bank I'm in my bath. No complaints, you know, I'm has podcast, I'm drinking out of monster. Yeah. That's my default. I'll be like the sun shining on Ben go, Jim. But you know, of course, if [00:05:00] you want me to actually give it to it for non certain thing, but deeper for sure.
[00:05:03] You know, cook despite all that
[00:05:05] Chris: [00:05:05] could be better. Yeah, of course. I think it's important that people recognize that, you know, we, we all do have a default answer, you know, and I think my default would be grant, you know, uh, at all times I'd say I'm absolutely fine, but there are times where I'm like, ah, I should have probably told him the truth and I should have said.
[00:05:20] And yet the first time I think, uh, I ever really thought about that question was when I went to the diverse session with, with no, and I gradually over time, got better at answering the question. It's still really hard. Like, it's still a thing where you're like, Oh the fuck, am I supposed to answer this?
[00:05:33] You know, am I, how am I supposed to explain my emotions? But I think, I think you answered it with, um, so we, we normally, uh, go back, um, in time a little bit. Uh, we'd like to kind of delve into, uh, you know, character development from early on. So, you know, growing up, you know, there's particular pieces of your life or are components that went into making Rob lipstick as you are today.
[00:05:56] Um, so I think I'd like to wrap, go back to Congo. [00:06:00] Okay. Um, I think if people are listening and they're not from Ireland, Dublin schools have a certain reputation I'm often dominant from West cork and outside of, of dull and dirty certain allure, I think, to the rugby schools. Um, and especially to a few of them, you know, St Michael's congos, et cetera.
[00:06:19] So do you think that, um, growing up in our, going to school in congos, which is an all boys boarding school, correct me if I'm wrong, that did it have an influence on your character development and the rugby side of it also the, that did that influence
[00:06:32] Rob: [00:06:32] you? Yeah. Yeah. So that was, that was a huge part of my life.
[00:06:36] So first of all, when you're, you know, in boarding school, no boys boarding school, yada yada, a little bit or Jaeger hate it, you know, and I was definitely one of the people that I loved that my dad was also in the army, in the Irish army, United nations as well, and like super high off. So I've always loved discipline.
[00:06:54] I've loved organization. And so like basically in Congress, if you don't have your room in order [00:07:00] before class starts, you're, you're locked out of your dorm for the day. Like, so everyone cleans the room and I actually read it like that, you know? So even now, like people walk into my flat or my apartment and the place is just so organized.
[00:07:14] They're like you are serial killer, you are patching pavement, you know? So, so I really enjoyed it. I loved the three square meals a day. It's what got me into fitness. Cause again, I was good at rugby. I was on what was on the main team and we'd have training for school weights after school pitch run at night.
[00:07:35] And that's what got me into the gym. And when I left school, of course I was not going to rugby where I'd go pro at it, but I was always really good at the fitness tests. No cause I'm like, I was like Firestone. I'm like, they're like run to the, as a test run back. Yeah. I'm like, I got this, but when it came to all the drills and stuff, not so good, but I loved it and it, it had a huge influence on me.
[00:07:56] I, I would even go as far to say, I would not [00:08:00] be in the fitness industry doing the career I'm doing now, if it wasn't for that, you know, maybe I went to a different school that didn't have such an emphasis on sports, then I wouldn't have started taking the gym and exercise so seriously. Um, yeah, I really liked, and I've always said, I'll definitely send my kids there.
[00:08:15] Cause it's like, you're paying for a babysitter, you know, like you need a break. And so like, you know, send your kids off to kind of be more in the bands. And like you're like, people are like, Oh, some of the most expensive skills in Ireland. I actually think when you take like cooking food, you know, hot water showers, you know, teaching your kids, studying.
[00:08:37] Um, I think it actually, it's kind of worth it, you know,
[00:08:40] Chris: [00:08:40] so yeah, I really liked it. Um, there's, there's two core to people. Some people want to send their kids to private school. Some people want to send their kids to public school. And I think, you know, there's merits and demerits for both, you know? Um, and I think that, like, the reason I asked you that question is because like schools, like clown goes, uh, I went to a [00:09:00] public school.
[00:09:00] It was actually a private school, but you don't have to pay to go. There was a weird setup. Like my, my school, it was like falling down essentially. Um, but there, there is an allure there's a newer, I think, for these private schools and dove in because like, if people don't don't know what are people who aren't Irish like, uh, these guys are, you know, a 17, 18 year old, uh, uh, uh, males playing rugby.
[00:09:21] Okay. And they're on TV at that time. Right there, there is like there, um, you know, treated like professional athletes. Um, you know, but they're not paid, you know, they're training, uh, sometimes twice a day, they get weights in the morning. Sometimes they have pitch sessions in the evening. They take their sport very, very seriously.
[00:09:40] Their games are put on TV. Like they have big draws for crowds, et cetera. Um, and there's a kind of a culture embedded in that where, you know, if you are, the perception is if you send your kid to a school like a, is that they will have, you know, a better placement in life. You know, there's lots of people that get good jobs from [00:10:00] because they know the people like the people that are in their class go on to have, uh, good degrees and they go on to have, it's kind of the Irish equivalent of like going to like a good college, you know, in America they have like, you got to go into one of the Ivy league schools and Arland, you go to one of the kind of good private schools, but it's like, it's a, it's an interesting conversation to have, because everyone's going to go through this.
[00:10:18] Everyone's going to have kids and they're, everyone's going to. Have to make a decision. Do they want to, you know, fork out the money to go to a private school? Do they want to kind of send it to a public school, watch the difference, you know, but I think it, it, it most certainly has an influence on people.
[00:10:33] Um, and I think it's had a positive influence on you from, from what you're telling us, you know, but there's a lot of stuff in the media these days about kind of learned helplessness. And I think the opposite of learned helplessness is like this learned positivity. Um, and you are a remarkably positive guy, you know, I watch, I follow your content a lot probably for the last two years.
[00:10:54] I'm not blowing smoke up your ass, but I th you know, there's like a few people that I would watch [00:11:00] on YouTube. I have been off social media for a long time. I was going around, uh, for the last 10 years. See, I'm not in social media. And then I realized this year that, Oh, YouTube social media. So I haven't watched it, but I got into kind of fitness content in like 2019 and near the summer.
[00:11:14] And you were your videos, um, They really helped me to figure a few things out. Okay. So like I came from the school of, I played rugby as, as a teenager, too, not too high level or anything, but there's a culture in rugby of, you know, uh, the Jim and Jim culture. And there's this whole thing around, um, getting bigger and getting stronger and you need to be a certain size and you need to be, I always remember when we were growing up that we would all talk about our weight a lot.
[00:11:42] Like, what do you weigh? We, I remember being in my friend's house and I was all standing around the weighing scales being like, Oh, you're kilos, you're you? You know, I just haven't, there was one kid, uh, Dave that he moved to, uh, uh, uh, a rugby school in cork. And he came back like a [00:12:00] year later and he was like 90 kilos at like 17.
[00:12:03] We are like, Holy shit, what is he taking? You know, protein was, we was taken, we all said, but you know, you're, you're super positive on your channel. Okay. Really positive. And I think like people can learn from that level of optimism. Um, I think that optimism kind of is a precursor to a lot of positive things in your life.
[00:12:22] It, can you tell us where are our, how you have kind of fostered that level of optimism? Um, was it from people who influenced you or did you just figure out, listen, I need to kind of make a decision here. I can decide to be negative about life or I can decide to be positive about life.
[00:12:36] Rob: [00:12:36] Yep. So just what you said there, the latter.
[00:12:39] So I used to not be a very positive person whatsoever. Like I was bottom of my year in congos, like literally the bottom, like two 75 a year. I was numbers my grades from 75. Yeah. I'm not saying like trying to be the cool. Stupid guy, you know, Oh, I'm such an idiot. No, I was like Majed at the bottom of the air.
[00:12:58] And so I was, I was really hard on myself. [00:13:00] I'd say, Oh God, I'm not going to get into college. All my friends are going to go to UCD. Uh, that they're all going to be together or they're going to get ready to go jobs from the old, their parents or someone else's parents. I don't have a family business to go into.
[00:13:12] I was super negative on I'd always like make jokes about myself, like being the dumb guy. And so I was, I was really very negative, you know, when I was like, maybe like, you know, 15 to about 21 and you know, it's all fun and games take the best side of yourself and self deprecating, as long as you're not serious about it, you know, as long as you do love yourself and you know, you didn't believe in yourself, that's fine.
[00:13:39] But I was like really taught. I was going to be screwed, like, cause my results were so low on teachers would. You tell me like, Oh, you know, you need to pull up your socks and all this. And then I finished congos. I got into, you know, a random course, um, in business visor and DNC versus solid course, but I just didn't like it.
[00:13:57] And I failed that [00:14:00] course twice, two years in a row. So right now I'm looking like Billy Madison, right? DIT, like, yo, I'm getting old. So I was already like a little bit older my year as it is. I was just like, Oh, look, I need to change my mindset here. Okay. I need to strip everything back. I need to start loving myself.
[00:14:18] I need to start big and myself up being like, you can do anything. You just need to, as corny as the signs, you know, do what you're passionate about and let it go from there. And I was like, Rob, what do you like? Okay. Rugby. Alright. You're not that good. Okay. What else do you like? Fitness. Okay. Um, I'm really good at that.
[00:14:35] Okay. I can, I can I've read articles since 16, like scientific, scientific, yet scientific evidence-based articles by training and attrition. I love that. Okay. Right. Got it. Personal trainers, sir. So not pass it. All right. Studying. I was like, all right, maybe I'm not so stupid. You know? And so this is going to start to believe in myself a little bit, and this why I'm so deep on people doing what they [00:15:00] like to do.
[00:15:01] You're never going to be the best at something. If you hate it. You're just LeBron, James loves basketball and tiger woods loves basketball. You know? No, I'm Scott.
[00:15:13] Chris: [00:15:13] He probably loves basketball, basketball as well.
[00:15:18] Rob: [00:15:18] Like to be the best. The Wolf of wall street, Jordan Belfort, he loves talking. He loved making sales.
[00:15:23] To be the best that somebody you need to actually truly like it. So I was like, I want to be the top of the fitness industry in Ireland and also the world. And so, you know, I'm need to start backing myself up and love myself and change my mindset. So that the latter, what you said, I just made a switch.
[00:15:38] Yeah.
[00:15:39] Noel: [00:15:39] It's, it's great to see those kinds of switches, obviously when I'm working with people and just in general, like a similar kind of thing from my own experience in the secondary school. And I think the teachers had just had enough of us and there was a changing of the guard, like all the old teachers in our, and my secondary school where, where we're kind of just starting to leave.
[00:15:56] And then the new ones are only starting to come in 40. We were the last year and [00:16:00] it was this whole kind of thing of, they were trying to use reverse psychology, but there's only so much reverse psychology. You can use before you need to say, like, stop calling these guys stupid because you start to believe that.
[00:16:09] And that's exact same kind of thing. That's something that I just believed us and same similar kind of thing. What results. Unfortunately for me, I didn't, I kind of, I, I got that kind of, bit of passionate about myself, but maybe kind of 10 years later than Europe, I haven't put a painkiller card to put it on there.
[00:16:29] That's exactly it. It's it's cause it's like, there's a couple of parts that there's always hanging in, always hanging in there. As I say to people, like never give up, know when to step back from something. So you don't just flog yourself to death, but dude like never give up, but something that I've noticed around over the last few years, um, with people that I suppose the, the importance of having not necessarily mentors, this is something that we actually talked about when we were, we were, um, talking together as a team, having different guides along with different stages in your life was [00:17:00] there.
[00:17:00] Someone that said something or was that like, did you ha were you a fan of someone or did this just kind of come into your head, those moments? Obviously, there was the time of things built up to that from, with, with, with congos and then, um, in college. But was there someone in not necessarily directly in your ear, on tasks, what, was there someone there or was it just yourself?
[00:17:22] Rob: [00:17:22] Yeah. So definitely knowing in my year I, in my hair, everyone telling me not to do it. Fitness industry is dead in Ireland. Oh, you're trying to train people online. My mom was like, what are you going to be doing? Jumping jacks to Skype. Yes. She, she didn't understand that at all. And so the people that I ran, the no, the people that I would look at was American YouTube or the American fitness industry.
[00:17:44] You know, all gym owners were making videos, you know, showing their gym, giving advice, showing their clients, people were selling their books. Online. People started making online guides and this is like 2013 sort of, I know people were [00:18:00] just online. Coaching was just becoming a thing. Now, online coaching is more popular and effective than in-person coaching, especially after 2020.
[00:18:08] Now you can't even the naysayers know
[00:18:12] Dan: [00:18:12] 2017
[00:18:13] Rob: [00:18:13] is going to be a thing. I don't like to be smoke. I don't like the smoke, but told you so, okay. Hey everyone. Laughs. They got me for going, working online since 2013, like especially Irish people would wreck the Dave my biggest supporters and also your biggest detractors as well.
[00:18:34] Who do you think you are doing? Bicep curls and posting them online. You know, who do you think you're that great. You know, and so I would look at people in America who had done it before, and it's such an Irish business model to look at what the Americans are doing and bring it over. Like your abracadabra is like just an Irish international, even the logos, like the same, like [00:19:00] it's just like,
[00:19:05] you know, there's so much there's businesses on models that just see what was working in America and bring it over. And that's pretty much what I did. Um, so yeah, I, the people that I would look up to who are actually, what are some of my closest friends that YouTube was like, Christian goes min max tuning, um, guys like that.
[00:19:23] Um, so yeah, that's what I looked up, but I did not have someone in my year and beyond. I had people in my era trying to hold me back on it. It's like, I don't even blame them. You know, like I, my mom is from a rural Mayo, you know, my dad's from Sligo. It's like, they don't, they hardly even know to work the internet, you know?
[00:19:43] So, so I don't mind that they, they were like, what are you doing?
[00:19:46] Dan: [00:19:46] You said that it's like a super Irish thing. And something kind of resonated with me a lot, like a super artist thing for people to be like, ah, come on. What are you thinking about? But did you find us, you know, When
[00:19:58] Rob: [00:19:58] you say it's kind of say started the YouTube
[00:20:00] [00:19:59] Dan: [00:19:59] channel or whatever that you did have, like a lot of people maybe telling you like, Oh, I don't use the word slagging, but like, like your friends and that, that would be like, Oh, you posted a video, smash, light goes, blah, blah, blah.
[00:20:12] That kind of thing. Kind of taken the make out of like YouTube. Cause I feel like that's a, a real Irish thing to do. It's like somebody doesn't understand something. They default to just taking the piss out of it. You know what I mean? And then they're, but it is, it kind of comes from a place of jealousy.
[00:20:25] Did you find that with like your friend group, it was a bit like a Rob where you kind of come out through you, you're going, you're making a video. Are you like kind of thing? Did you find
[00:20:33] that
[00:20:34] Rob: [00:20:34] to happen? The last pine plea, my clown goes, friends were actually surprisingly supportive off video. You had to get me a snag and, but not in a serious way.
[00:20:44] And then they actually, like when I first started my use, your child's actual share. And they're like, Oh, go subscribe to my friend. And that's one thing about a board and school, you know, you, you do get proper, I'm still best friends with all the nods today. So that was great, but it was just people that I would [00:21:00] kind of know, or like, not know too well, that would, or people that would know off me already, that would be, you know, talking to Crapo, but it's such an Irish thing.
[00:21:09] And it's actually, it's, it's small-time mentality. It's not just Arland. Like if you go to like a small time in the UK, it's the same and it's, it's completely understandable. The whole reasoning is. You know, I saw an excellent quote and it's like the, the reason why people who come from where you are, they don't like to see you doing well is because it pains them because they're like, Oh, I could have done that.
[00:21:33] I could have done that. They're like, I came from the same town. I'm like, why are strangers on the internet across the world supporting me in begging meal? Whereas people from Dan, the rows are talking crap because cause the people from across the world, they're like, Hey, you know this ours as the older people that wrote through and they're like, especially older, be in the fitness industry and stuff.
[00:21:54] They're like, I could have done that. Oh, I could have been the first one to start it and fitness YouTube channel. Oh, you know, I [00:22:00] could have been the first person to start a podcast. Oh, that's so annoying and a pains. So that's why all the, the people that talk crap or criticize you online or are all people it's very strange.
[00:22:14] Dan: [00:22:14] I think as well though, it's like, it's like, you know, your friends will give you a hard time, but they're also, like you said, they will be the ones who will support you. And I'm sure, you know, the tree of OCR, like the, the one DMC lots. I'm sure all our mates are probably federal photos like into the WhatsApp group.
[00:22:26] Like guys, do you mind just like in this or just giving us a, so, you know, when you, when you start now, I suppose you are probably. Burn the air off a few people, but you know, your friends will always be the ones that at the end of the
[00:22:36] Chris: [00:22:36] day, that's a super important point though. You know, like you are right.
[00:22:40] I think that the problem with when someone like you start something like you, you had first mover advantage and the others finished industry. I don't think there was anyone else doing what you were doing. And to be perfectly Frank with you, I'm Rob. I was one of your detractors at the beginning. You know, I was a dude and Jimmy, who's the fuck.
[00:23:04] [00:23:00] Rob: [00:23:04] not me.
[00:23:05] Chris: [00:23:05] I swear to God. I want them to say this to you because it's super important. Um, and obviously you're, you're online. You're living out loud. So you're going to have detractors. This is one, one of the things I really want to talk to you about, but there was a point in my life where, and I feel like this is lead on to another point.
[00:23:20] Like this is projection. So when someone is in a small town, I'm from a little town in West cork called Bondon. Okay. And call me, call me from Bandon. Uh, you know, there's no one in my town doing what you do. Okay. But a lot of us were going through the gym. Nobody in my town looked like you look, okay, nobody might done was taking this serious.
[00:23:38] As you were taking it. Nobody was doing fucking, you know, care backloading and all the stuff you were supposing on your child, because none of us knew what the fuck we were talking about. No, like back then, the places we used to go, um, were like pitches like teenagers and bodybuilding.com and you know, this kind of stuff.
[00:23:52] We were all doing bro splits. And, you know, we all taught, we had it figured the fuck out, you know, a story there that [00:24:00] like, I used to take this thing called serious mass and it comes into a massive, massive doggy bag, like disgusting stuff. And they're like, and we were taking, we were in fourth or fifth year.
[00:24:09] And I remember, um, all of us taking protein, um, and being like we're taking protein, you know? And I started taking creatine. I didn't tell anyone. Cause I thought I was taking drugs one Christmas day. We were going for Christmas dinner. You know, obviously it's, you know, probably three or four o'clock. And I had my serious mass doggy bag.
[00:24:27] And the theory at the time was you're supposed to fucking take eat every two hours, or you're going to lose all your gains. I mean, how many fucking games, you know, whatever games I had were telling me. Right. But I, I, I decided in my wisdom that I had to eat this a mass gainer because I wasn't, I was going to lose my gains, my masking, or any two hours to have my, and I hated it and I couldn't eat my fucking, my, um, my lunch without all that stuff was like ingrained in us, you know, growing up, like playing rugby, happy, bigger.
[00:24:55] You know, we looked at Sony, Billy Williams and these kinds of people. And we're like, we have to look like Sony. We're all [00:25:00] so small in comparison to like, we became more interested in a gym, which I think is what, what happened to you? But like at the time when I went to college and you started doing all your kind of, I think you started on Facebook.
[00:25:10] Yeah. There was a couple of people in, and I went to UCC university college cork. There was a couple of people there that were like, Uh, as into the gym, as I was into the gym and they were starting to do a couple of things on like Instagram or Facebook or whatever, but most of the people were like, what the fuck are you doing?
[00:25:25] You're not allowed to do things. You're not allowed to live out loud. You've gotta be quiet. It's kind of, we, you know, I don't want to harp on our belabor the Irish point, but we, there is a sense of Irish guilt, a little bit, the American students very well. They're extremely positive. It's almost like they're in, doctrinated in positivity.
[00:25:42] You know, California mentioned before because everyone's so damn positive about everything, but we all had to kind of get it. You're not really allowed to step out of line. You're not low to kind of, you know, make it too fast or whatever you got to kind of be humble. And then there was just going from Dublin, uh, you know, on the internet, making videos, telling me [00:26:00] everyone, you know, what to do with calories and how to go to the gym and how to do your exercises.
[00:26:04] We were all kind of like these guys affect nature. But in 2019, I came back like having learned all the wrong shape. Okay. But on a load ways, you know, got really into my job and business, stop going to the gym. And I, I looked on YouTube. There's Rob lifted. I'm not going to check out rock lifts and stuff.
[00:26:20] Probably absurd is disposing like scientific evidence-based, um, uh, videos. This is how, you know, calories in calories out. It's like, what the fuck I'm learning? Oh, Rob literally is teaching me stuff like 400,000 followers or whatever. 500,000 followers on YouTube. I was like, Holy shit. Look at Rob, listen.
[00:26:38] Like the guy grew up in a country where you're not really allowed to do what he did and he kind of decided I'm going to do it anyway, you know, despite the detractors. So I'd like to know from that. Okay. That long lead in, uh, what, what were you saying to yourself when people were kind of saying, Rob, you can't be doing that.
[00:26:57] Why did you think that [00:27:00] what you were doing. Or did you think what you were doing would lead to where you are now? Did you know that like you were kind of riding a wave of his YouTube growth?
[00:27:08] Rob: [00:27:08] Yeah, so, and a little bit, both like, you know, there's like a video. I was like my third ever video. And I was like, Oh, I'm not going to stop till I have my own boot.
[00:27:16] That expos until my channel is, you know, over a hundred ties in, don't tell, you know, I'm working with like the best companies and this is like so early ends. And this is like, you know, I don't even know maybe from a psychologist point of view, I don't know if manifestation visualizations or where were the ass or not, but I was doing it anyways.
[00:27:34] And, you know, I was trying to speak it into existence. So there was that, but then there was also like, You know, you believe in yourself, but you also, you stay humble and you're like, you understand that it's going to take so long. Like people don't realize like the first video I ever uploaded was September 1st.
[00:27:51] It says in 14. Yeah. I was coming up to like six, seven years. You know, there there's being no overnight success I was making the first couple of years, says in 14, [00:28:00] 15, 16 making I was working done five, you know, and, and bits. And we're going to retail here and there and paid on college and yeah, I was doing all this.
[00:28:08] It wasn't just like jumping on YouTube and blown up. There was like so many ups and downs. And so many times they're silly so many times, right. Don't think I'm going to make it like, Oh God, I'm going to Buster. It's all going to come crashing down in the morning. You know? So, so yeah, I believed in myself, but it was no easy ride on there's plenty of times where you don't believe in yourself.
[00:28:32] So really it's a bit of both. It's like a balancing act. It's like, yeah. You know, tell yourself you can do it, but. You know, you got to have four, you know, you don't get a Honda. And that's another thing as well when people say like, Oh, you went to congos. Oh, you know, you got a rich family, which isn't true by the way, go to that later.
[00:28:52] But I'm like, Oh, what they'd congos? Give me YouTube subscribers. Oh, did they give me a personal trainer certificate today? Buy my camera, [00:29:00] the congos, the building, open up its magnets on the side. And start speaking to the camera for me. Uh, my sister, you know, What, you know, what you talking about it. So like, that's another thing as well that we'll talk about later.
[00:29:13] You're going to put it in all the work yourself, especially in the online business. It's a new generation. No, one's no one's mom or dad has given them Instagram followers on a, on a pancake.
[00:29:25] Chris: [00:29:25] Well, it's like a lot of important things. Like, let's say there's a melting pot of Rob Lipsett here. And what we're talking about here is important.
[00:29:32] First and foremost, like you talked about Christian Guzman and max Juni. Kristen goes to Miramax Juni live in, in Houston, I think, uh, on, on, you know, several hundred miles away. Okay. So let's say you were born in the eighties. You wouldn't never have seen these people. So there's, there's a concept of cultural nomadics.
[00:29:50] Um, Richard Dawkins, I think mentioned it, but I think the first person who's talked about it was a guy called Rene Girard, essentially. It's the idea that. We want what we want because other [00:30:00] people around us influence us and kind of, you know, we like, if you live in the Amazon rainforest, you wouldn't want to be an investment banker.
[00:30:05] Right. So you kind of want what you want because you are influenced by your surroundings. You knew that you could do this because you'd seen someone on the other side of the planet do it. Okay. Does the school on a longboard? Uh, because I had watched, um, Oh, what was the program? The OSI or something. And someone had a longboard on the show and I bought one from New York and they were like, well, you were the first person in our and ever been okay.
[00:30:30] Call me Mr. California. My principal used to, I used to be late for school everyday. She'd be like, Oh, it's Mr. California showing up late again, because there was on a skateboard, but it is important because kids nowadays, right. Okay. I would argue
[00:30:41] Rob: [00:30:41] skateboard is faster. You could've said anything
[00:30:44] Dan: [00:30:44] infinitely cooler.
[00:30:45] They're like Tony Hawk or whatever, and landed on the OSI.
[00:30:50] Chris: [00:30:50] The Hills was one of my favorite TV shows, but let's move. I don't care. I could be embarrassed as hell, but [00:31:00] like the important point here is that you grew up in a time that the, the information that was available to you was more expansive. You had the internet, so you could see, okay.
[00:31:10] It doesn't matter that people here are going to be like, you can't do this. This is silly. Why are you doing this? Why are you taking your top off and taking pictures? Okay. Because I'm guarantee you, people told you that, Oh, well you can see Christian Guzman. Who's this kid from, you know, uh, Texas or whatever, who was starting his own gym and starting his own company.
[00:31:28] And like that guy has, is the epitome of living out loud. You know, he's entire kind of life from a certain age has been tracked on YouTube. Yep. Also you had like some, you know, random factors, like, you know, does where you go to school to have an influence on your life a little bit. Okay. Does your family and your surroundings, you know, that that nurture site, um, have a, uh, an influence on you a little bit.
[00:31:50] Do your friends have an influence on you a little bit? Do does the fact that you went to a rugby school and you, uh, they had a gym in the school have an influence on you a little bit. Yeah. But [00:32:00] at the end of the day, you know, Rob Lipson have to do the work. You know, Rob lifts had to start the channel. You have to be brave enough to say like, okay, like I know these people are kind of.
[00:32:09] Taking the piss, but I am going to try this. I know it's possible. And I'm going to like back myself essentially. And I think the important takeaway for people listening for, like, I know there's lots of people these days. I think, uh, the most, uh, cited career, um, for teenagers are gen Z. These days is a YouTuber or an Instagram influencer.
[00:32:29] Okay. It's not your solicitor anymore. Or your doctor it's, everyone wants to make it online. Okay. And you kind of stacked it at the time where people weren't doing it and you rode the wave. And now you're kind of like one of the benchmarks that people would Irish people will go, okay, Rob lipstick made it, you know, you've got like an over a million followers across different platforms, correct me if I'm wrong, which is admirable for sure.
[00:32:52] Um, but I really want to, um, uh, get into, um, the whole piece about, uh, you spoke there about, uh, you [00:33:00] know, nobody gave you the money. Nobody gave you the followers, right. Um, and in, in your Ted talk, you mentioned that, uh, You know, I think your family business went down at a certain point, and I'm very interested in this, this idea of the relationship with money.
[00:33:14] So I'll give you a preamble about me to kind of kind of introduced this. My relationship with money has always been fear. So my growing up my family was quite wealthy. My father is a, an entrepreneur, a very good one. And, um, around 17, 18, uh, he lost his business. Okay. Uh, as did everyone else, everyone lost their pants in, in Oh eight Oh nine.
[00:33:34] Okay. He just happened to be in the property business. He was a developer. So he was the demon of the country. You know, the developers were the bad people, the, the Celtic tiger. So I, at this period of life where, uh, I am very cognizant of what's going on around me. I'm just about to go to college. I was heavily influenced.
[00:33:58] Rob: [00:33:58] Yes,
[00:34:00] [00:34:00] Dan: [00:34:00] that's correct.
[00:34:06] Chris: [00:34:06] You're muted on mute.
[00:34:11] Dan: [00:34:11] Hello, obviously edit this out, but
[00:34:16] Rob: [00:34:16] we're
[00:34:23] out the door.
[00:34:26] Dan: [00:34:26] He just goes to the door and he's like, Oh fuck this
[00:34:33] Chris: [00:34:33] it's fine. It's fine. As I was saying, basically that like my, my influence of money was I was afraid of it. So I came from a period of time where we had not, not in a, kind of a, a showy way or an ostentatious way. We just had money, you know, I never wanted for anything growing up. Okay. Uh, and then all of a sudden we didn't have any, and I watched my father, you know, um, deal with that and rest with that.
[00:34:57] He actually had two strokes in that period [00:35:00] of time. And he, you know, thankfully managed to get out of it, kind of not unscathed, but he's alive now. He's healthy. Um, so had this kind of fear of money and it drove me, um, you know, for the next, you know, until maybe last year in everything I did, I want, I needed to have it because I, I knew what it was like not to have it.
[00:35:18] And I wanted to be able to give my kids, uh, you know, what I had growing up. So I want to understand, like, you know, you obviously had this at a kind of a formidable period of her life. You were, you know, 17, 18 again, correct me if I'm wrong, they, they lose their business. I don't know the details of that.
[00:35:32] You don't have to go into that if you don't want to, but it was at a period of your, of your life, where you were deciding to go to college. You were deciding what to do. Did you, did it form, um, a new relationship with money for you or with business? You know, what is your relationship
[00:35:45] Rob: [00:35:45] with money? Yeah. So, so that, that's a great question and something that I think about often.
[00:35:50] And so my story is just like, same as yours. My family was really wealthy and successful at one stage as well. And then just as finishing school, it's about 18 or [00:36:00] 19. Um, then yeah, time business went under completely, you know, I add my whole, we have to rent like our family home, like at rent, turn every room into an en suite and rent it out to, you know, Get by really?
[00:36:14] And then my, so my family home note, my sisters all laughed at my parents split off and you know, they go their separate ways. So right now it's just me and my family home with a bunch of strangers. I'm like, what the hell just happened in the space of like a year, you know? And so I was like, Oh, my eye is all on me.
[00:36:36] I was like, I, I really got to like kind of toughen up there. And that was a big spur of me to go after burn the boats. You leave college and start this fitness business as well. You don't want rail, I've ever read the story about, you know, burn the boats. Just, you kind of go back, have no other option. You know, mommy and daddy, they're not going to save me.
[00:36:55] I have no cousins with jobs or anything. So I've got to do that. So the very, very [00:37:00] similar to your story there. And then at the time by relationship at the money where money was kind of scarce, you know, and oftentimes your ratio wet money and how you perceive money is how it will be. So the ax money, it money's going to be scarce.
[00:37:15] And as I started, you know, working harder on moving up in the fitness industry and having just a little bit more, more cash, I started being much more generous with it. And now I find like, I'm always, I'm more than happy to cover the bill. I will always, you know, if my friend needs something. Absolutely.
[00:37:35] And now I'm very generous or money on. I find that it comes my way as well, and I don't worry about it as much. And that will also, once you stop worrying about money so much, you'll be. I don't want to say the word flippant, but you'll be, you'll, you'll be more willing to take risks and invest, you know, um, some money ends up coming, coming back to you.
[00:37:56] So for flip and for lack of a better word. So as a lot of people start [00:38:00] now starting their own business, uh, they are, they're very scarce winded on you need to slowly get a little bit more comfortable with spending because to make money, you gotta, you gotta spend money. So now definitely generous. And now I'm even, I'm at a point where like, I don't really care too much about money.
[00:38:17] I don't know. That's well for you to say that that's great for you to say, but after a certain point, there's a great study to read up on this. I'm sure you guys have read it after a certain point more money doesn't make even happier. Yeah. I think that's one of the most interesting ones I've ever read and I've actually lived that myself.
[00:38:37] You know, you don't even notice it. You don't like to even tell a crazy story. In 2018, I went into the accountant and it was like, maybe he says, 19, actually redeemed says 19 accounts. And like, this is when my business had been going well for, by four years since size and 60, like Brady. Wow. And they're like, Oh, altogether, you know, you're, you're over the [00:39:00] last years, lifts and fitness has made over a million Euro.
[00:39:04] And I was like, if you didn't tell me, I wouldn't have even, no,
[00:39:14] I was like, that is not made any different. So, so that's, that's literally so true at that study. So I I've really lived that out. But so now my relationship money is it comes and it goes at time is more important. I'll be generous
[00:39:29] Chris: [00:39:29] with it. Yeah. Like, I think it's a very important, um, thing to this costs. Um, Irish people don't have, um, a very good, I think attitude to discussing money.
[00:39:41] It's like very hard for us to talk
[00:39:42] Rob: [00:39:42] about. Oh, and I think that's BS and I think that needs to be, it needs to be spoken about as much as fucking geography
[00:39:52] Chris: [00:39:52] spoken about it. Yeah, absolutely. You know, I talked to Donna about this all the time because I kind of, I grew up with, uh, an education in, in, [00:40:00] in saving and you don't always remember my mom telling me that, uh, you know, when they first got married, she used to like put, um, like budgeting for them was she had envelopes and she'd put cash in the envelopes.
[00:40:10] One is for food. One was for, you know, electricity and all stuff. And all these things like stock in my mind. So I knew what to save when I was, you know, 17, 18, you know, going to college. I knew how to understand money. And then when I got into the career I'm in now, which is investing, um, I, you know, Gained my own education in, in finance.
[00:40:28] And I think people should be taught this, but there's also an emotional component. Um, you know, behavioral science or behavioral economics is all about our reaction to money, you know, loss, aversion, and all of the, you know, fundamental biases we have around money. I think people get very emotional about money.
[00:40:45] It's one of the things that I fear most in any relationship. Um, and I always, uh, you know, try and give the idea to people that you shouldn't really do business with your friends, because the very moment that money comes into question and money is on the [00:41:00] table. People's psychology changes. Okay. And it changes quickly.
[00:41:05] Um, and people start to kind of have that hoarder mentality, you know, and, you know, everyone has their own attitude to money. Some people fear it. I fear to, for a long time, I don't fear it anymore. Um, and you know, not sometimes I feel guilty about it. Sometimes I feel grateful for it. Sometimes I feel like it's the bane of people's existence, you know, but it's a very important thing for people to discuss, you know, and that I study you referred to the Harvard study where there was an opera boned.
[00:41:32] Um, for me, uh, I was Berkeley anecdote. It is true. So you get to a certain level of income and once you can get away from where you can detach yourself from this idea of, I need more and more and more and more, and you can step off the treadmill. You know, hedonic adaptation is when you want more. And then all of a sudden, you ha you, you get a bigger house and then you need a bigger mortgage because your next door neighbor has a bigger house.
[00:41:52] And then you need a better car to match the house. And then you need a fucking treadmill, you know, because, well, you know, I'm rich, I need a treadmill. You know, all of these things start [00:42:00] stocking off for you, but if you can learn to detach and say, okay, I don't actually need that fancy character mash the fancy house.
[00:42:06] Um, there's a certain amount of money. You can kind of give you a kind of a holiday a year and it can make sure that you are subsisting. You're eating good foods. You know, you're probably living in a nice place. You are in an, a kind of a worldwide scale. The 1% you're in the top, 1% of, of the world, the D do you think like this, uh, your attitude, the money now?
[00:42:25] Cause I'm surprised you actually said that because when, when looking at your channel and your IgE and not going to stop, it is, you know, from the outside in you look like you're living the ideal or the idyllic life, you know, you look like, I'm sure you have kids messaging, you being like, geez, you've loads of money, the Arab, uh, can I have some money or do you know, sometimes you have pictures of like fancy cars and you know, you're friends with people like Mike Thurston, these people living in Dubai, living the idea of life.
[00:42:49] You think that your attitude towards the future antimony in the future, does it affect or influence your behavior? Does influence the decisions that you make in your life.
[00:43:00] [00:42:59] Rob: [00:42:59] Um, for sure. You know, I'm, I'm always, I'm always kind of just trying to bounce the thoughts, my head of odd. Should I say more or should I have more fun now?
[00:43:10] You know, Hey, money's meant to be spent. So it's definitely, you know, it's a, it's a constant back and forth, but really I try not to take it too seriously, you know? Um, I think money can be a huge stress for a lot of people if you let it be. Um, so yeah, I kind of just, couldn't try to go with the flow really.
[00:43:30] And that's really, really interesting that you're into investing as well. That's something in the last year that I've started to learn about and little bit more is that you're making your money work for you. So yeah, that's something that going forward, I'm going to try and keep educating myself on. Yeah.
[00:43:45] Chris: [00:43:45] It's properties with a better way. So I know you're trying to get into property. We can speak about that some other time.
[00:43:51] Rob: [00:43:51] Yeah. I'm trying to decide, know where to buy first, so yeah, definitely gonna have a shot of it.
[00:43:57] Chris: [00:43:57] We can talk about it offline. This is, this is a [00:44:00] mental health podcast.
[00:44:05] Dan: [00:44:05] I do think though, just Chris, when you, you touched on money there and, and Rob as well, like obviously you've, you've come into a, a place now where, you know, obviously not all, but, uh, I would say a certain chunk of income comes from places like YouTube and on brand deals and Instagram and stuff like that.
[00:44:22] And I know for me, like I went to, I went to film school, you know, I went to one of the, one of the, kind of better recognized film schools in Europe. And, you know, it was fantastic college, but you know, we're there and being taught about, you know, like making art films and the German expressionists cinema era and all this stuff.
[00:44:39] And I remember
[00:44:39] Rob: [00:44:39] kind of starting to work freelance and like shooting things for
[00:44:42] Dan: [00:44:42] influencers at the time and shooting things for YouTube and, you know, dealing with clients and asking people how to, how to, how do I charge? How do I invoice? How do I pay taxes? And yes, I'm learning about, you know, talking about the significance of the color green in this piece of cinema here, but like, how do I make money from, from [00:45:00] this craft?
[00:45:01] And it was something that was never really taught to us. And I even went back like after college and emailed the directors. And I was like, can I like, come in and talk about what I've learned to kids about like freelancing or working for like online or doing content, like
[00:45:15] Rob: [00:45:15] basically content creation, like on a monetary
[00:45:17] Dan: [00:45:17] basis.
[00:45:18] And they're going we've we would have no interest in that. But I was like, what half the kids who come from come out of this class, at least college are going to go into that. And, you know, they have to figure out like, navigate this, you know, plane of trying to like how much to charge, like if a brand, like, did you kind of have this kind of limbo era where, you know, they say your first brand deal or something, somebody comes on to you and they're like, Hey, we want, will you post this product?
[00:45:41] And you're like, Ooh,
[00:45:47] Rob: [00:45:47] send me a lifetime supplies. Like free t-shirt. Yes. But it
[00:45:53] Dan: [00:45:53] is crazy that like, just like, you know, like he's, like Chris said, they're like, you know, kids want to be YouTube. It's like, you think it's only a matter of [00:46:00] time before this course exists. Like as kind of content creator. Chorus is a thing you can go and study.
[00:46:06] Rob: [00:46:06] Oh yeah. I, I definitely think so uneven. So one of the previous business ventures I've run was very successful. It was the raw James Academy. So, you know, I train people to, I certified people. I had Ron James, I was like, where are we got the classroom to be personal trainers? So they got an actual. Uh, you know, EQF or EFQ European fitness qualification, but like fully the JF.
[00:46:28] But then I also added in an extra module myself on how to market yourself as a personal trainer, how to do online as well as in person. And that's like, that should be standard, you know, that should be standard in these film courses to sort of learn. All right. Okay. We'll give you the skills now. How do you actually put bread on the table?
[00:46:46] Cause he can't, you kind of pay rent with some sick editing. I'm like, I can like to my landlord be like, Hey, y'all go get them pretty sick, fine. You know, those biceps could do some work, you know? So I think that's something that, [00:47:00] that needs to be in a lot of creative college courses is, you know, w we need to learn more about money.
[00:47:05] Chris: [00:47:05] Yeah. 100%. Like, I don't want to belabor this point, but the reason I wanted to speak about this is because one of the chief worries for most people is money. Yeah, we talk about anxiety and you talk about depression. Um, you know, a lot of the times, one of the stimuli that affects people's anxiety and effects, um, you know, it can trigger depression is losing the job.
[00:47:25] Okay. Why, why do people worry about when you lose your job? Most of the time, it's not the status. It's the fact that they, their livelihood has been taken away from them to feed our kids and not going to stuff, you know? So it's very important that people learn and declassified their own relationship with money.
[00:47:40] You know, what about money matters for you? Is it the thing that it can buy? Or is it the security that I can give you? Or is it a status that it can give you or watch? You know, it's very important because if you don't think about it and all of a sudden you lose it. It can trigger all sorts of, uh, you know, curricularly stuff, mental stuff, you know, what I really want to talk to you about, [00:48:00] um, you know, celebrity as a culture.
[00:48:03] Um, and you know, um, I don't know if you would classify yourself as an influencer or a YouTuber or, you know, a celebrity or whatever, but you have kind of, let's say a celebrity status and everyone knows who you are, um, more or less. Okay. What do you think? Um, you know, I, I mentioned before that you've, you've lived life through a lens for the better part of seven or eight years now.
[00:48:27] Okay. Do you think that doing that and being in the public eye has influenced your behavior? Or do you feel like through the feedback loops? You know, like it's kind of weird that there's not many things I do in my life where I get like a huge amount of data of people. Like what I just did. Okay. This many people viewed the investment I just make.
[00:48:46] And they like it. Okay. This many people thumbed down on my, my last job or whatever. Do you think it's influenced, um, you and what you do and on how you act in front of the camera and behind the camera?
[00:49:00] [00:49:00] Rob: [00:49:00] Yeah, of course, absolutely. You know, and this is something that I've had to train myself to do in recent years and I think.
[00:49:08] I'll make some analogies here in recent years, you kind of get caught up in the views on the subscribers, on the followers, or you're literally putting your brain, like, it's like a dope mean hit. Oh, those people liked the photo. Oh, I'm happy now. Oh, this photo didn't get enough likes. I'm not happy now. And when you just start out on like maybe, you know, you gotta read a viral video or something, you got some good feedback on it.
[00:49:31] You're, you're delighted. You're like, Oh, people like me, you know, this is great. But if you're doing this, long-term like me seven years, you have to detach yourself from that on just like any business. Um, you understand that it comes and goes in waves. You know, like, like I think like my subscriber growth slowed way down in 2020, cause like I can't even go to the gym, you know, and, and that can really get you down.
[00:49:55] And it's like an Omni business as well. Like, you know, if you have a bad month [00:50:00] that can get you down as well. So I think it's, it's important to use these as analytics to see what's working. What isn't. Where you need to detach yourself emotionally from these things, or you're going to drive yourself insane.
[00:50:13] So, yeah, in previous years, in the first few years, it would definitely have an impact on me and my brain, but now I'm a little bit more mellow with the whole thing. I've kind of gotten used to it as well. And that is like, if I put up a video that I read like banking and I enjoy the content and you know, it doesn't get many views.
[00:50:32] I'm cool with that, you know? And that's, that's a good thing. Or if I post a picture that doesn't go off, but I really liked the picture. I'm like, Oh, so yeah, I I've learned, I've learned to kind of ask them that in recent years,
[00:50:47] is it is Mike on Chris?
[00:50:52] Chris: [00:50:52] Excuse me. It's, it's an important point because that's attachment is actually a Buddhist principle and, um, You know, I, I feel like [00:51:00] if more people understood this concept of, um, you don't have to avoid, so for a long time, I avoided social media because, um, you know, I felt like in college that, you know, that influence that you had of like the Christian Guzmans, et cetera, it, it impacted me negatively because I felt like I'm not as good as these people and I never will be.
[00:51:19] And it was making me second guess myself. So I was comparing, I wasn't comparing myself to my peers that were close to me. I was comparing myself to like the most Jack people on the planet and saying like, why am I not, you know, uh, you know, gifted, like these people are know, are these people who are taking drugs or not?
[00:51:37] Or, you know, what, you know, what is their PDs involved? What can I do that? You know, all these things were like running around in my head and, you know, my feed was constantly either like, The most beautiful women on the planet are the most jacked good-looking dudes on the planet. And I was like, shit, I'm living a shit life.
[00:51:52] So I kind of got off it, you know? And the reason I asked you that question is because, you know, I know for a fact there are 15, 16 year olds, [00:52:00] um, that when they post a picture and they don't get enough likes, like I've heard stories of people where their sons, daughters have been told them stories where they, they have posted a, uh, a picture on Instagram.
[00:52:12] And if it doesn't get over a hundred likes, they deleted.
[00:52:15] Rob: [00:52:15] Oh my God. I hate to hear that, you know, I know it's so true, you know, and that's why, if anyone's this and this right now, I urge them to just post content that they're passionate about and enjoy. I that's just going to grow out of it. Cause people see you're passionate and detach yourself from the numbers.
[00:52:32] Chris: [00:52:32] Yeah. Like it is very, very important. Um, super important. I hope people will take that away from you because I think you're probably you're right in the sweet spot of like the demographic that we're trying to speak, speak to because your age and your status, but also the people that follow you, you know, I read a lot of the comments on your YouTube videos and it's a lot of the young men, um, you know, 90% men is my demographic you grew up with in congos and that kind of stuff, you know, in rugby schools, we all have this kind of, this [00:53:00] idea of masculinity.
[00:53:01] You know, you don't cry, you gotta be fucking muscular, you gotta do this and you gotta do that. Or else you're just kind of less of a man. Um, and. You know, it's important that you're speaking this and you are what they're looking up to and you were saying, guys, just detach from it. You know, it doesn't really matter how many likes you get.
[00:53:17] Um, it doesn't matter, you know, I've heard you speak before about which I felt was, you know, really well-spoken about the idea of, um, you know, your body and someone else's body. You don't need to compare your body to science body.
[00:53:33] Rob: [00:53:33] Yeah. I'm sorry. I started putting just before I forget, my favorite quote ever is don't compare your chapter one, someone else chapter.
[00:53:39] Okay. I just want to say that
[00:53:41] Chris: [00:53:41] I forgot it came from you.
[00:53:43] Rob: [00:53:43] It's my favorite. And it's like, it applies to anything. Don't compare your first year of business to someone who's doing a 10 years. Don't get better your first year in the gym to someone who's been doing it 10 years, you know, don't prepare literally.
[00:53:57] And, and, and that's the thing. People who [00:54:00] just click on my page, maybe they just hear his podcast to click on my page. They see Palm trees in my bag and that they don't see. I everything leading up to before that. And because nowadays we live in an instant society where it's just fine image and there's no background into it.
[00:54:15] There's no context whatsoever. And so that's just such an important point to make. And I don't want to hammer that home to young people. Listen.
[00:54:24] Chris: [00:54:24] Yeah. Documented because coming from you, it's important. You know, social proof is important to people look up to people like you. So I want to ask you as well about you talk a lot in your videos about like, every question I asked is how would you solve this problem?
[00:54:38] A lot of it is, is I go through the gym, right? I have this seminar thing. And there's a pattern kind of emerging in a lot of our guests be, uh, whether they have a sporting background or not. We asked them kind of what would you do when you're feeling, um, anxious or nervous or down, or you're not feeling your best?
[00:54:53] A lot of them say move our, our, our exercise, but. I am not going to ask you that question. I'm going to ask you, is [00:55:00] there something from your you're from fitness? Cause there's lots of things from fitness. I apply as analogies to the rest of my life or the things from fitness, like your eristics or ideas or principles that you apply to things outside of the gym.
[00:55:15] Rob: [00:55:15] Yeah. I'll PR nearly everything like, like this we'll say. And so typical cause Oh, of course you says up would like going exercising and having a routine is like the anchor to my day. It's it's honestly working out is the most important part of the day. I will honestly say that it is. It's single-handedly the Mo the biggest game changer in what I do, unlike people say, Oh, of course it says he works in fitness, NGO, he's bias.
[00:55:44] It's like it's instantly improves my mood, it gods routine to my day. And if you can, there's actually a really interesting study on this, that if you have a discipline in your diet, diet is actually one of the hardest things to be disciplined. And if you follow, [00:56:00] you eat out that you followed this one diet that will fall into every aspect of your life.
[00:56:05] It was, it was a crazy high statistic. Can't remember city off the top of my head, but training. Yes. Diet even more so, because it's so hard to do like eating well, this is one of the most difficult things you can do, and, and that will fall tremendously. And I was a crazy high overlap into every other part of your life.
[00:56:27] Yeah,
[00:56:28] Chris: [00:56:28] I think like I asked that question because for me, um, I think about work. Um, and I think about work because for a long period of time, I went too hard at work. And when I started to, uh, um, use the equivalent of the gym and in, in, in training, uh, you have like these macro mental cycles and they have like conjugation and they, they basically, you know, if you're a period icing for an athlete for a year, there'll be periods of time of very high intensity and some periods of rest and low intensity and this kind of stuff.
[00:56:57] I started to think, okay, maybe I should [00:57:00] apply that to work. Maybe I should play that to my own life. You know, I can't go and work, you know, 12 to 14 hour days every day, because in a months time I'm going to crash. But when I went to NOLA, first, one of our biggest things we worked on was like this idea of like productivity I had in my mind that like, I needed to be super productive.
[00:57:19] I needed to like hustle all the time and he kind of like. Took me off that pedestal. I like to talk to me down to say, like you don't this isn't you like, you know your work isn't Chris, if you didn't do this work, you'd still be Chris. So you can kind of talk yourself down. And we worked in the idea of maybe scaling back, you know, taking weekends off, uh, was a thing that I had to learn to do at, to say, okay, I'm going to not work on Saturdays, or I'm going to finish work at 6:00 PM.
[00:57:48] Or I did this because I learned that from over-training I get injured. And if I don't take any rest, like one of the most important parts of any training cycle is the rest periods and your [00:58:00] sleep. So, you know, you, you don't build most of it while you're awake. You build muscle while you're asleep, that's where all the hormones are secreted, et cetera.
[00:58:07] Um, and I think it's, uh, it's, it's really important to take like those ideas and analogies and perhaps, um, take them as your mystics and apply them to other parts of your life. Because it took me a very long time to, to, to figure that out. Another part of your data, I think is important. I've seen you speak about regularly is journaling, which is something that I do myself.
[00:58:28] Can you take us through like your, your habits, your journaling habit and how that goes for you and what you've got
[00:58:33] Rob: [00:58:33] from behind right
[00:58:36] Noel: [00:58:36] now, your tags, but it's definitely come back to the journey because this touches into what, uh, what, uh, what, uh, once it kind of highlight. And, and obviously you've touched on it a bit and it's great to
[00:58:46] Chris: [00:58:46] hear from you.
[00:58:49] Noel: [00:58:49] Um, that's like, obviously you have that
[00:58:52] Chris: [00:58:52] following.
[00:58:54] Rob: [00:58:54] Yeah, yeah, no, I can, I can, I can hear
[00:58:56] Chris: [00:58:56] now. Yeah. Sorry. I can't hear no,
[00:58:58] Noel: [00:58:58] no, you're okay. [00:59:00] Sorry. I was just to come back to that and it's good that Chris is going to touch on the journaling part as well. Um, because it's highlighting what it wants. It. Kind of touch on and just to come back a few steps when you were talking about kind of, um, adding like Dan and, and, and rather than some credit idea to add the module and about actually how to be able to kind of make a living out of it.
[00:59:18] And it's because I'm really conscious of, like you said, rather to be kind of the different demographic and the age profile and something that I see we can get kind of too caught up in like the hustle, make the money and, and kind of, and it's great to have that drive, but it's really interesting to see, like if you come back to it understood doing research on you and watching the videos, the enjoyment part is, is massively important.
[00:59:41] So it's absolutely like get a living from what you do on, because if you're not getting a living from it, it's really hard to keep doing what you want to want to do. But it's just definitely something that I see any really common true is thus your. The Forrest port of call is I'm definitely [01:00:00] enjoying this and yes, I'm going to harness th the, the, the financial side of it then, which follows on like that with the, with the journaling, with your routine.
[01:00:08] Like, I'm, I often say this to clients, we can live our lives a certain way and do that kind of the tips and the tricks and stuff like that. But you got to, I think it's really, really important to fully get behind it and really live your life that way. And you can see that what yourself is, like you said, it's sometimes there's reason why our answers are cliches it's because that a genuine answer.
[01:00:31] And that's exactly what it is, you know, it's, it's, it's really interesting to see that, but just come on back then, um, from what Chris was asking, uh, uh, jumping ahead of Chris, it's just about the journaling piece that, that he wanted to, that he was asking about. What's that like for you and how did you, how did you come across it and what does it do for you?
[01:00:54] Rob: [01:00:54] Yeah. So I I've been journaling for all years. Well, over three years [01:01:00] on my mind is like extremely overactive. I'm an overthinker for sure. Uh, you know, if sometimes I can't sleep at night because my mind is just racing and then I read something and it said, writing is how you organize messy thoughts. It's how you are taking that.
[01:01:18] Sorry, writing is how you articulate your thoughts. Okay. If your mind is all over the place, put it on a piece of paper and it's a little bit more organized. So I started another one. I actually got this up. Jordan Peterson. I'm pretty sure is. He said, write down how your ideal day would go. I love that.
[01:01:39] Like what a fun exercise to do. So I like that's so good. You know, obviously within reason I can't write like win lotto tomorrow, you know? And so I was like, okay, you know, let's, let's be real. I was like, I would like to have. All my emails done by 10, I would like to have this podcast, you know, how to add 11 high's viewing at 1130, which I [01:02:00] do have as well.
[01:02:03] We got time. We got another 20 minutes, I think, zoned gender out. I, you know, I'd like to go to the gym. I'd like to spend some time my girlfriend, I would like to cook dinner and I'm like, that's a great day. And so w when people start writing out of what did I do is I ride at, before I go to bed, how I want my ideal day to go on in order of importance, things to get done.
[01:02:22] And that's been hugely helpful. And I think writing it down and notes, or if you haven't been downloaded some apps, it was the app. I have it. It's called, like to do a search or something or, or notions, or what's it called pings. And another one called notion. There are good apps, but I think nothing compares to writing down on a pen, pen and paper.
[01:02:41] I just, nothing compares. And especially as well when the, your little planner has dates. In it like opera and some, some things then like six months in advance and I'm like, I want to hit this milestone by then. And I think by like putting that in your brain and your subconscious, it may, yeah. The [01:03:00] secret woo.
[01:03:04] The first book you'll read on, I'm thinking, I already think that does work because it's, you put it in the back of your head and you know, you have that day written in your head. So that's how I've gotten into journaling. I don't do like intense essays every day. I literally just write bullet points. Like if you were to like read it, it would probably make no sense if be like jam dinner,
[01:03:25] Chris: [01:03:25] put
[01:03:25] Noel: [01:03:25] products to do what works for you.
[01:03:27] That's the key thing is to do
[01:03:28] Rob: [01:03:28] what works for you, you know? Yeah. Yeah. It's all bullet points on the end. That's been hugely helpful for me. So like, I, I don't like things I do regularly, like exercising and journaling is something that helps me mentally and me from getting overwhelmed and being overwhelmed.
[01:03:46] Just one of the most common things as an entrepreneur or when you're self-employed, you don't have anyone waking you off town, you go to work, it's all on you, you know, and especially nowadays as well at work world, working from home, [01:04:00] you know, you need to self motivate really. And so these are two, two things that has helped me so much, somewhat
[01:04:07] Chris: [01:04:07] overwhelmed.
[01:04:08] Yeah, that intrinsic motivation is important, but I want to ask you, you, you spoke about getting overwhelmed. I know you took a break recently. Um, for YouTube, I was kind of going, what was this? What a month, Rob? Where's your, where's your videos? Cause I do, I do like when your video comes up, like go to my subscriptions or whatever on YouTube, if it comes up, I'll watch your video.
[01:04:25] You took, you took a break. Was that because of, um, something business related or was it because you were feeling perhaps overwhelmed or, you know, is it COVID related? Is it, you know, why did you take the break?
[01:04:36] Rob: [01:04:36] Yeah, it was, it was actually kind of pandemic related really. So first of all, I've uploaded like way less.
[01:04:41] Everyone has way less in 2020, and even some parts of 20, 21. It's an own inspiring time and it's a very easy time to be hard on yourself. Um, but it's, you kind of got to give yourself a break. It's a valid excuse, like. Stuff is literally [01:05:00] close the not opening. And I was so used to going to expos, traveling around, always having an event around an events company.
[01:05:07] You know, I can't even do Vance anymore. Where's my government paycheck. None. Right. So I was so used to all that being on the go, I love meeting new people. I love being out in Nevada. And then it's just like June go to your room. So it's definitely a tough time for motivation. It's an uninspiring time. And a lot of people are left with, they don't know what to do with yourselves.
[01:05:29] And then recently in January at the start of the year, I have to say my lease in London ended like it was January to January and London has been in complete lockdown since started January. So it was the timing. I was like, they were like, you can either renew your lease, stay on London or go somewhere else.
[01:05:47] So I was just in this weird transition period of like, Moving to Spain. Ma do I go back to Dublin? Dublin's lockdown as well. There's no point in going there. So it was just a really weird and [01:06:00] confusing time. Like moving. Have some nevermind moving country is always just like you're all over the place. Um, so it was just a little bit of time where I needed to kind of figure out what I wanted to do for the air and yeah, it's still such a strange year.
[01:06:13] So yeah, it was definitely just on dammit COVID related and trying to figure it out, figure things out. And I love having a routine, you know, and I also think the environment of where you live, you know, when I sat, I used to live in the highest sort of bunch of strangers renting that was like, I was getting nothing done.
[01:06:28] I'd be trying to record a cooking video in my kitchen. Like some Rhonda Mer who'd be like staying Airbnb. And for weekend we'll walk in and you'd be like, what the hell are you doing? Like who the hell are you. And like, yeah. So I, I think environment is so important. So I was just kind of getting a new environment to get my feet grounded.
[01:06:46] Yeah.
[01:06:47] Chris: [01:06:47] Very important. And I think people don't always add this to the equation, you know, when people suffer with anxiety or depression or, you know, even, you know, trace anxiety, um, are people who have like low lying daily anxiety, like chronic [01:07:00] stress or whatever people don't understand that there are like bio-psychosocial markers where, um, your environment, it can influence your mood.
[01:07:08] Okay. So mood is a spectrum and, you know, euphoria is one end of the spectrum and, you know, uh, you know, like suicidal ideations are at the lowest end of the spectrum. And, you know, your environment growing up in that, um, apartments, they are the Haute, your, your ex family home with all those people. You didn't know if you stayed there long enough, it would have influenced your mood.
[01:07:27] You know, and I feel you guys influenced negatively for long enough. It can lead to depression, things like changing your environment, context, switching, you know, moving from lockdown, uh, London to sunny Bay, where the restrictions are slightly less, I've seen a change in your mood. Like it's kind of weird.
[01:07:44] I can say that because I watch your down videos, but I DMD you months and months, and months ago after a Q and a, you did, um, and someone asked you in a Q and a about how you feel in or whatever. Um, and you, you kind of honestly said, like, I'm not feeling the best. I think someone asks you [01:08:00] to go to therapy or something.
[01:08:01] Um, and you said, look, it's not something that I've done, but I'd be interested in, um, in maybe doing some, uh, I'd be interested in looking at it. Like I see the mind is kind of, I see the body and it's kind of worth, um, trying, um, is therapy something you'd ever consider going into.
[01:08:18] Rob: [01:08:18] Yeah. Yeah, for sure. I'm and this is why I jumped at doing this podcast and I'd love to even, you know, I'm happy to go on again, like we do the Wrangler Sunday morning.
[01:08:26] Catch-up because I'm like mental health is something I'm really passionate about. I don't know. I've never even said this cause I'm afraid to say this. Um, like when you it's memory the touchy subject, like it's literally the most, the hardest subject to talk about when you think about it. You're speaking.
[01:08:44] People are so sensitive because it's sensitive. And so I'm like, I always want to talk about it, but you know, I don't have a therapist or a psychologist here, you know, I'm like, I'd love to even like, get my taps again and all [01:09:00] that. And just having something to talk about. But again, People would say, who are you to talk about it?
[01:09:04] You know? And it's such a catch 22, again, it's a bit of an Irish thing. People are like, Oh yeah, we want to make mental health more spoken about, we want to get rid of the stigma and then you do it. And then the world jumps on you. It's it's apps. It's crazy. And that's why I thought it was so cool. Um, that, you know, we have the psychologist therapist therapists here that feel strongly
[01:09:26] Chris: [01:09:26] about not to put on the rub.
[01:09:28] Right. Cause I'm not in the spotlight. Like you you're, you know, they, they will jump on you. Um, and I'm glad we got to this point, cause this is like the most salient point. I think about this whole discussion, Rob you're in the spotlight. Okay. People watch you and it's primarily young men watch you young men who watch you, um, will look at your lifestyle and undoubtedly they'll want to mimic it.
[01:09:50] Didn't want to have the body you have that want to have the positivity you have that want everything in your life and they'll try and do it. Reverse engineer your story. And there's a thing called narrative fallacy, [01:10:00] where we'd like to look at other people and like, there's the halo effect. We go like, you know, Rob goes, Oh, I wake up in the morning at six o'clock.
[01:10:05] So there's a bunch of kids going, I'm gonna wake up in the morning, fucking six o'clock okay. Rob goes, um, you know, like take these pre-workout I'm going to think he's fucking pre-workout because Rob does it, you know, that's the influence that it's idolatry, young kids and aren't to want to get grown in the fitness industry.
[01:10:19] But you know, we, we are able to speak, um, about our mental health, because on just Rico, I know you, you see yourself as an ordinary guy, but you're not really, you know, you're, you're like an outlier, um, uh, in respect of the fact that you have this huge value, you have this large platform and people do listen to you.
[01:10:39] But I was really taken aback. Did you agree to do the show because I've heard you speak on other older podcasts that, you know, it is difficult for you to talk about it because people will jump down your throat and say like, you are not allowed to say this. Why? Because you have the ideal life, but you're hearing it right now.
[01:10:54] Guys, Rob Lipson has the ideal life, but he also has a brain and everyone who has a brain is [01:11:00] influenced by everything they do in their day and everything that surrounds him. And, you know, even Rob Lipsett thinks about his mental health, you know, I think it's super important. And it's, it's, I'm grateful to you for coming on the show, um, to do that.
[01:11:13] And I'm grateful for you for even bringing up this topic. Cause I know it's difficult for a lot of people, um, in your, uh,
[01:11:20] Rob: [01:11:20] position. Yeah. And on one thing as well, that I think it's so important to say if this is in day or really even verified, I have like days, like I'm, I'm definitely a positive guy, you know, I I'm did by default.
[01:11:33] That does not mean I have days where I don't have a little mental breakdown. Like literally my problem is that I feel if I'm not being productive enough, I know you mentioned that earlier. I am, I can be extremely hard on myself, like, or like if I like enjoy myself too much at the weekend, I'm like, Oh my God, prob you should've stayed in this weekend.
[01:11:56] You showed it, you know, had an early night or like, who do you think [01:12:00] you are? It's like that scene in one supported. It was like the whiskey sours, but
[01:12:10] Dan: [01:12:10] I love whiskey
[01:12:10] Rob: [01:12:10] sours, but so I can be, I have mental breakdowns. I had one, I think earlier this week, again about not, not putting in enough work this week.
[01:12:21] Um, Linda has to, has to deal with that of days where like, I'm I self doubt, not sure myself days when I'm rating dad, I don't know, hard on myself. And so of course, but majority I'm in a great mood, you know, I'm getting things done, but we all have those days where we hate ourselves, honestly, I'm everyone.
[01:12:42] And like, even, even Gary V I'm sure you know, everyone. And I think that's an important point that we need to speak about more. And I'm so glad I'm able to say this now on this podcast, because people say, how dare you say that you're not even in Arland where we're all locked in and you're in the salon.
[01:12:58] It doesn't matter. [01:13:00] And Joe, one thing that I was talking about with someone else in today, like for example, when like a celebrity, like Vici or there's loads, they committed suicide. Like they're multimillionaires, they're traveling the world, they've caught concerts and cries of people screaming, their name.
[01:13:19] They walk on stage fireworks, go off behind them. Doesn't matter, you know, like that's so crazy to say, like, you know, it just doesn't matter.
[01:13:30] Chris: [01:13:30] I think it's important to look at this and the specifics of this because yes, they are considered idols and they have this idealic life, but. As I say again, mood as a spectrum.
[01:13:43] Okay. You're you're the brain follows you everywhere. You know, um, I referred to in an episode recorded with Dave Moore to the Sonic has letters to the silliest. And he talks about the fact that when you go away, like all of us want to get away, right? So when, when people are backed into a corner, they want to [01:14:00] escape and they want escape because they want the context switch and they feel like it will change your mood, but you adapt very quickly to wherever you are or whatever routine you fall into.
[01:14:10] And, uh, Seneca mentions to the city is that one of the worst parts about going away is that you have to bring yourself with you, okay. Get away from yourself. Okay. And this is like, fucking, I'm so delighted that you're talking about this because you are the idea of life. You know, you have the ideal body and all this kind of stuff, but still you have a brain and you have to deal with that every day.
[01:14:33] Okay. And it's, it's so important for, especially for, for young people, men and women to go. Yes. Um, you know, I can get everything I want in life, but if I don't feel secure in myself, if I haven't learned to love myself, do journaling or gratefulness or loving kindness meditation, or I don't surround myself with some positive people or if they don't seek therapy or if I don't build a toolkit for my mate, then look at it, preventatively.
[01:14:57] There will come a day when you'll have to look at [01:15:00] your mental health in a reactionary way. Okay. It's like, I'm not doing any prehab. Um, I'm hammering into the weights six days a week, you know, do my push people to like split. And then, uh, I'm not taking a rest day on Sunday and go for a run as well.
[01:15:13] Believe me, you're going to put a hamstring or you're going to, you know, tear a Tinder or you're going to get some repetitive strain injury. It's going to happen. Same thing with your brain. You're going to get some sort of like, you know, the analogy for repetitive strain injuries. Like chronic stress will lead eventually to a form of depression.
[01:15:28] Okay. So I just want to thank you again. I'm really grateful for that. I know you're not your clock for time. We always finish on something called a quickfire round. Okay. Is 10 questions you got about five seconds to answer each question and, uh, it's just supposed to like an and then a high note. Okay. You ready?
[01:15:46] Rob: [01:15:46] Yes or no. This is your last game. So beating around
[01:15:48] Dan: [01:15:48] the Bush
[01:15:51] Rob: [01:15:51] 10 questions. Come on five seconds on the clock. We only know
[01:15:55] Chris: [01:15:55] you don't need a lot of quick fire questions. Come on under that.
[01:16:01] [01:16:00] All right. Question one. If you were running for president, what would your campaign focus on
[01:16:07] Rob: [01:16:07] making Arland, the fittest strongest country in the world
[01:16:13] Chris: [01:16:13] at first? You said it before. That's a great
[01:16:14] Rob: [01:16:14] answer. Yeah. I actually wouldn't mind be present serious. You'll get saying that Sarah, can we actually make these long answer questions?
[01:16:24] Just the first one? Like, so for example, okay. You're ready to t-shirt because everything in our, you know, Michael D. Higgins is great and all, but I really like him as president. He's got more involved. You know what I mean? Like it's like the kind of like missing, there's a missing person there. The whole thing, like we could have right down to t-shirt across all the shots.
[01:16:43] We can have more leaders. It's just one person sitting there and these get more involved. So if I got, I don't want to be T-shaped it's too serious. I would just like the slide in the presidential role, get into the , you know, get everyone just tournaments. So when you're talking
[01:16:59] Dan: [01:16:59] about [01:17:00] getting some new, a new property, I think you're meaning a house in the middle of Phoenix.
[01:17:03] Yeah.
[01:17:05] Rob: [01:17:05] Property. Yeah. Yeah. I'm more focused on getting everyone fitter, um, getting, which would bring the economy. You just gonna be a huge boost in economy. Mon monetarily. And I get people getting in the right jobs, not even create more jobs. I get people doing the stuff they love to do in the right jobs.
[01:17:24] And it also be a huge focus on mental health tree things. I've never heard. The government told me to follow my dreams and do jobs. That was the longest quick fire question president. And he was there to treat
[01:17:37] Chris: [01:17:37] pain. Okay. This is a funny one. What do you get, if you say pre-work before a game?
[01:17:42] Rob: [01:17:42] Oh, you score a banger for tri you kick the ball into the air and you get bond from core con for a lot,
[01:17:57] Chris: [01:17:57] but it's the three best cheat meal you've ever had or [01:18:00] your favorite cheat meal. Uh,
[01:18:01] Rob: [01:18:01] you, you know what a Domino's takes me a week to recover from. I can like, like, it's very different from a 10 cross pizza, like 10 cross pizza. It's like, all right, I'm going to Brad, but sauce, cheese. Uh Domino's is like density it dominoes on some Ben.
[01:18:19] And Jerry's afterwards that, that takes me a good week. I feel hung over after it. I like it. I can
[01:18:24] Dan: [01:18:24] train you to get those numbers down to a couple of hours. Right.
[01:18:27] Rob: [01:18:27] You can learn a lot from me, man.
[01:18:31] Chris: [01:18:31] All right. Question four names, something weird or absurd that you love.
[01:18:35] Rob: [01:18:35] Oh, Oh. Um, I eat a Kiwi hole. I know there's one where thing that I really like, Oh, what is it?
[01:18:46] Oh, it's something like mustard on pizza. I like as well, but yeah, I could probably think of a few
[01:18:54] Chris: [01:18:54] names of that you could live without.
[01:18:58] Rob: [01:18:58] Um, [01:19:00] my Mac book on, yeah, my Mac book. I'd have to say that I would actually grab the other than people are like grab something nights when you're thrown out of burning house and actually the other phone.
[01:19:09] So I'll write it like chill, but I had for a while it would actually be the
[01:19:12] Chris: [01:19:12] microphone. Yep. Nice. Okay. Question six. If you were the last person on earth, what would you still do?
[01:19:18] Rob: [01:19:18] Just walk right in naked. And for some reason I pictured out on a desert Island. So like, I'm just like doing cartwheels on the side.
[01:19:24] Like just no, there I'm just like, this is fine.
[01:19:28] Chris: [01:19:28] Not search for food. Just walk around naked question seven. If you could broadcast the message to everyone on earth, what would it be?
[01:19:38] Rob: [01:19:38] Oh, God. Be happy for the moment right now and be
[01:19:43] Chris: [01:19:43] nice to each other. All right. Nice. Uh, what advice did young people ignore?
[01:19:53] Rob: [01:19:53] Say your parents advice.
[01:19:59] That's a different [01:20:00] gender
[01:20:01] Chris: [01:20:01] generation. Yeah. If you feel overwhelmed, what do you instinctively do?
[01:20:05] Rob: [01:20:05] Um, I actually, what do I do? I actually usually cook make some food relax and that sort of thing as well is, um, I think it was Jordan Pearson spoke by this. They're like if someone suffers from anxiety in the morning, intermittent fasting, isn't actually good and loading up on coffee.
[01:20:24] And if you actually have a high fat, high protein breakfast, it's a lot more calmer on a days where I'm feeling more anxious. I actually, I cook breakfast.
[01:20:34] Chris: [01:20:34] I read that too. And I actually, I tell people about that question 10 last one, finish this sentence. At the end of the day, it all comes down to.
[01:20:44] Rob: [01:20:44] Doing what you love and that that's it, you know, and, and people are going to say, Robert, it's the corniest, but he's like a motivational poster in real life.
[01:20:53] But that's the first thing that came to my head.
[01:20:55] Chris: [01:20:55] All right. Rob plugs, what do you want to, uh, um, put forward to the people, listening to the show? Um, [01:21:00] I know you're working on a, quite a few projects at the moment. So you want to tell the people about them?
[01:21:03] Rob: [01:21:03] Yeah. So fuel cakes.com some a protein pancake company.
[01:21:07] There'll be restocked on March 26th. Very excited for that. I love the
[01:21:12] Dan: [01:21:12] branding of them and they look at the boxes. So
[01:21:14] Rob: [01:21:14] cool. You know, where I got up from, I literally was like searching up 1950s cereal boxes. They're so funny. They're like collect six coupons and you can get a cult 45, but you're next. I'm like America.
[01:21:28] I'm not even joking. I'm like America, you are insane. I love it. I'm taking your cereal box idea as a fuel case.com. They'll be back in stock suit and game plan. My app. We'll be ready probably in the next week or so just in time for Jim dependence day on April 12th, when James opened in the UK and I'm hoping Arland follow suit, that's all loader podcasts itself.
[01:21:47] The port Rob for president will not
[01:21:49] Chris: [01:21:49] be closed. Rob lives at one. Do you see podcast number two? You're going back to the toys. Brilliant. Listen. Thank you very much, man. It's been a pleasure. We're very grateful for you coming on. We're very [01:22:00] grateful for you. Opening up, being vulnerable. Um, about your life and your health and, and, and everything.
[01:22:05] Uh, this has been the one easy podcast with Rob Lipsett. That's us guys over and out,
[01:22:11] Rob: [01:22:11] jump out the bed. I got it
[01:22:14] Dan: [01:22:14] as always. Thank you so much for listening to this episode of the one DMC podcast. Big thanks to Rob for coming on again, really appreciate that. If you want to keep up to date, what else you can follow us on all social media.
[01:22:23] We are at one DMC podcast on everything, and if you really enjoyed this episode, please consider leaving a review on it or rating on Apple podcasts. That helps a lot on, you know, we really, really do appreciate it. Learn more about us as well on www.onedmcpodcast.com. And we will see you next week. He say,
[01:22:40] Rob: [01:22:40] bye-bye.
