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[00:00:00] Chris: [00:00:00] This week we have Richie Norton.
[00:00:04] Dan: [00:00:04] Richie is a Yogi.
[00:00:06] Chris: [00:00:06] He's a personal trainer. He's a life coach. He's now an author. He is just an all around vibey gentlemen. And if you don't know what I mean by vibey or vibes or vibrations, don't worry because we're going to explain that in the abstract, because I didn't really understand it all that much either.
[00:00:27] It's a
[00:00:27] Dan: [00:00:27] little bit esoteric
[00:00:29] Chris: [00:00:29] and it's slightly on the woo side, but I like woo stuff. I like esoteric. And I like when people start talking about energy and vibes and how to feel good. And Richie's an expert in that, cause he just wrote a book called lift your vibe. So before we start, why don't you take a few deep breaths through the nose?
[00:00:51] Milo, my puppy is a little bit stressed right now. He's making noises. It's okay. Ma we're taking deep breaths. We're getting ready for [00:01:00] Richie Norton's episode.
[00:01:02] Dan: [00:01:02] So
[00:01:03] Chris: [00:01:03] strap yourselves in, get a cup of tea, take a few deep breaths, lift your energy lift revive, and let's go. The bed
[00:01:10] Dan: [00:01:10] I got
[00:01:12] Richie: [00:01:12] into in the currency to sun, to the
[00:01:17] Dan: [00:01:17] a morning cup of butter.
[00:01:22] Noel: [00:01:22] Richie Norton. Great. Great to meet you and great to have you on. Um, you're very welcome obviously, um, before we get into a little bit about who you are, and then obviously that's more after that. Um, where, what we're trying to do, uh, we're trying to do a lot of things, but one of the things that we want to do, and this is something that I do as part of my work as a therapist.
[00:01:42] And I ask all my clients this, and I ask a lot of people, this question it's to get in touch with what's going on for you, but truly answer the question. And because we hear it a lot, but we don't honestly answer it really on and to get in touch with what's going on for you. As I said, and [00:02:00] that question that I always ask is Richie Norton, how are you
[00:02:07] Richie: [00:02:07] as in today or
[00:02:11] Noel: [00:02:11] right now, it was Richie sitting with life right
[00:02:14] Dan: [00:02:14] now. Today.
[00:02:16] Richie: [00:02:16] I'd like to say a really
[00:02:17] Dan: [00:02:17] great morning because I I've set my, uh,
[00:02:24] Richie: [00:02:24] Set my intentions quite clear this week to
[00:02:26] Dan: [00:02:26] lift the vibration for myself, also people around me. So when I make that extra effort to dig deep
[00:02:34] Richie: [00:02:34] for myself to be okay, the turnip in
[00:02:37] Dan: [00:02:37] a stronger, more positive way for others, my vibration is pretty high
[00:02:43] Richie: [00:02:43] and
[00:02:43] Dan: [00:02:43] to help with, uh, with it being a mental health awareness week.
[00:02:49] This week, as we record this, I've
[00:02:52] Richie: [00:02:52] set myself the intention to turn up for others this week in the form of lives,
[00:02:58] Dan: [00:02:58] on my Instagram, for example. [00:03:00] And that's one
[00:03:01] Richie: [00:03:01] of the things that I feel so key to bring to the table for myself also for others to give them the accountability. But it's always a, it's a rebound effect.
[00:03:10] So when, when you ask, like, how am I? I'm like, well, I am grateful. You know, I'm so grateful for being alive for having my health, for having an amazing community and.
[00:03:23] Dan: [00:03:23] I have a, have a practice at
[00:03:25] Richie: [00:03:25] the moment this week where I write down, like the three things that I know
[00:03:28] Dan: [00:03:28] are key to me being aware of and being
[00:03:31] Richie: [00:03:31] appreciative for and being grateful for.
[00:03:33] And when you
[00:03:35] Dan: [00:03:35] say, and you've
[00:03:37] Richie: [00:03:37] unlocked something here, because I just finished the practice, maybe like 10 minutes
[00:03:40] Dan: [00:03:40] ago, I
[00:03:41] Richie: [00:03:41] look,
[00:03:42] Dan: [00:03:42] uh, my, my partner, I
[00:03:44] Richie: [00:03:44] look at my friends. I look at my family. I reached out to a few people in the morning and they get back to me and they say, thanks for checking in. And they say, really appreciate that.
[00:03:53] Or someone from my community comes back to me and reaches out to me saying, thank you. You really helped me this
[00:03:59] Dan: [00:03:59] morning.
[00:04:00] [00:03:59] Richie: [00:03:59] My vibration just goes on another level. And that's what I like to bring to the table every day is like, if you're not in a good place, or if you need a little bit of extra magic today, reach out not just for yourself, because you might be able to get that rebound of appreciation, that, that gift of kindness and.
[00:04:20] Friday's always a big day for
[00:04:22] Dan: [00:04:22] that. So you caught me on a really good day, really good day. Is
[00:04:26] Noel: [00:04:26] it something that you, um, like what would you do to, to keep an eye on that? Would you to kind of like, w what is it, is there a kind of question, maybe not that exact question, but like, to kind of keep that check in with yourself, because that's what I often say to people is that like, even if they never come and see me again, it's that they have that question.
[00:04:43] And one of the reasons why I asked that specific one is because it's such a common, um, the way to say, just hello or an Australian, that's like with a different accent. I'm not even, I'm not going to try and massacre the Australian accent. Um, but it it's, we will hear it in the street, [00:05:00] you know, we could be walking to the shops and we're going one way, but we hear someone else saying it and it's in the air.
[00:05:04] And it's just a little kind of catch. Is there a specific kind of thing that you would do like that journaling or whatever are the type of questions that you do to kind of check in with yourself or has it just become a more natural thing over time since the work that you've done with yourself?
[00:05:21] Dan: [00:05:21] It's definitely become easier to catch myself
[00:05:24] Richie: [00:05:24] and to have that check-in because I've, I've
[00:05:27] Dan: [00:05:27] trained my body to be more self-aware.
[00:05:31] Um, but there are days when you, for example, last week I
[00:05:37] Richie: [00:05:37] get thrown off my routine because I go to London and let's say, we, we get bombarded with things that we couldn't prepare for, like someone getting sick in your close environment, and you're having to drop everything that you were doing. And you have to reassess your day a little bit to find the positives, rather than just let it bury you and just get stuck in that low energy space.
[00:05:57] I think when you catch yourself in those emotions, whether that's a [00:06:00] positive or negative, when you notice there's a shift in your, your energy or your vibration or your mindset or your mood and your emotions go all over the place, that's your warning sign. That's maybe the cue for me to check in. So the things I would do do is go into this toolbox
[00:06:17] Dan: [00:06:17] that I talk about, where
[00:06:19] Richie: [00:06:19] if I can't sit and close my eyes for a moment and just take a few breaths in and yeah.
[00:06:23] Now, and just gather
[00:06:24] Dan: [00:06:24] my thoughts and then shift where my energy
[00:06:27] Richie: [00:06:27] was. Sometimes that isn't enough, but most of the time it means I've got to get up and I've got to move. Yeah, because I've been sat down for too long. I'd been looking at a screen for too long. The energy around me has been overwhelming and that's caused me to step out of where my energy space was.
[00:06:41] And that's put me on a low vibration. So I will get El Palo go outside. We've got to change the energy some way. So that's where you see me move quite a lot as well. You see me outside quite a lot. You swipe me, see me do all these yeah. Exercises. And when you see me reinforce it, when I talk about it, I'm talking about, about it in that [00:07:00] way, because it reaffirms for myself that that was the right thing do, and I always feel better for it.
[00:07:05] So with that practice, whether that's journaling what's on my mind like this morning, I have a practice
[00:07:11] Dan: [00:07:11] where I do write things down grateful for every day
[00:07:14] Richie: [00:07:14] and I change up. And then I write down the things that today I want to try and achieve, that will be, you know, a positive result. So I'm already thinking, thinking about that is my intention.
[00:07:25] So that snaps me out of that negative overwhelmed kind of like busy Headspace and gets me back to putting the right energy into the positive outcome.
[00:07:38] Dan: [00:07:38] So
[00:07:39] Richie: [00:07:39] a long way to unsecure your question there so everyone can understand.
[00:07:43] Dan: [00:07:43] It's not that easy for everybody to do that. We have to catch ourselves.
[00:07:47] Richie: [00:07:47] If you're busy, you've had lots of coffee.
[00:07:50] You've kind of like set yourself up for this massive task list to smash that day. I mean,
[00:07:55] Dan: [00:07:55] you just can't bring yourself to step up. [00:08:00] You have to dig deep, but
[00:08:01] Richie: [00:08:01] every time you dig deep and every time you have to work a little bit harder or you get
[00:08:05] Dan: [00:08:05] through
[00:08:06] Richie: [00:08:06] that
[00:08:07] Dan: [00:08:07] wall or overcome the
[00:08:08] Richie: [00:08:08] obstacle, you're getting stronger.
[00:08:12] And I think, I like to think of like, everyone's kinda like building this toolbox and creating this resilience by just digging deep for themselves. And I personally had to do this this week. You guys know
[00:08:25] Dan: [00:08:25] that, you know, I got caught
[00:08:27] Richie: [00:08:27] with some stuff happened in my personal life. That kind of really threw me off.
[00:08:31] And I just had to like accept that was what was going
[00:08:34] Dan: [00:08:34] on, give it my attention, deal with it, and then look at where I can improve and how I can turn it around to be something that I learned from,
[00:08:44] Richie: [00:08:44] or. Appreciate where I'm at. And
[00:08:48] Dan: [00:08:48] that can just help me through when it gets a bit, um, bits bit muddy, or should I say a bit more challenging
[00:08:56] Richie: [00:08:56] and, um, [00:09:00] yeah, I kind of
[00:09:00] Dan: [00:09:00] identify and said all
[00:09:01] Richie: [00:09:01] your question a little bit in that way, but I'm trying to like unpack it based
[00:09:04] Dan: [00:09:04] on how I am right now, where I'm in my head space.
[00:09:07] It becomes a mental
[00:09:08] Richie: [00:09:08] health awareness week is always a bit of a sensitive one. Anyway, for me, yeah.
[00:09:11] Dan: [00:09:11] Comes
[00:09:11] Noel: [00:09:11] evidence that you're able, like, that's what I often say to people. There's like, look for the evidence. There's always evidence. There. It's either evidence that you've been able to get through. So there's resilience there.
[00:09:19] And the fact that even if you're in tears today, while you're still sitting there, so you clearly got through physical Europe, still present. So look to the evidence to say I got through that. And another thing you mentioned there was the science. I think that's important to give yourself the space. So you see the signs, you know, you're speeding down the road and you kind of go, what the hell did I put a big stop sign or slow sign, therefore, and you keep putting your foot on the gas.
[00:09:42] It's like, well, well, no, listen to the signs. They're there. But it's your body. It's your friends. It's your mind. It's your feeding. It's whatever it is. It's recognizing that. Hold on. There are signs here. Oh, that's what that is. Yeah. The pain in my neck. That's actually a sign of whatever it is, the pain in my stomach.
[00:09:57] Oh, that's actually, that's what that was. Okay. [00:10:00] I'll listen, I'll listen out for that now. Yeah, not it's it's it's brilliant.
[00:10:04] Richie: [00:10:04] So just, I think unpacking a bit more now I understand a little more about where you were going with
[00:10:08] Dan: [00:10:08] that conversation or that question. Um,
[00:10:12] Richie: [00:10:12] I actually liked the idea that I'm quite sensitive.
[00:10:15] I used to resist it when I was playing rugby
[00:10:17] Dan: [00:10:17] and to have this more
[00:10:19] Richie: [00:10:19] macho front and, um,
[00:10:22] Dan: [00:10:22] didn't really understand the
[00:10:23] Richie: [00:10:23] emotions. I just kinda like went to the gym or just got angry or had a fight with someone or just like got
[00:10:30] Dan: [00:10:30] angry.
[00:10:31] Richie: [00:10:31] And I almost like imploded rather than letting things flow through me. So when I know something doesn't feel right, whether that's a physical thing or a mental thing, I know, I need to take a break.
[00:10:44] I need to pause for a second, rather than just try and like smash through it or just like a roped or react, actually take a moment, which is why the breath work, plays a big part. If you're deep in something or you get in that physical sensation, that something [00:11:00] doesn't feel right, you know, you're reactive and you catch yourself and you have that little chat with yourself.
[00:11:03] Hang on a minute. That's not where you want to be. That's not the energy I want to be putting out there. That's not the flow I want to be on. That's when I will.
[00:11:15] And then find that space, get that pause. And then I'll listen to what that signal is. Is it because the anxiety is built up because something's been on my mind that I haven't addressed yet. Is it because someone's wow. Me up? Is it because something has happened and I haven't dealt with it yet and I need to unpack it a little bit more.
[00:11:33] Every time we do that and we address these things, we're actually becoming like more self-aware, but also. It's like empowering. I like to think that that's actually building this resilience and allow me to prepare for something bigger if ever happens because I've done the work.
[00:11:50] Chris: [00:11:50] Absolutely. No, it's, it's, it's rich.
[00:11:53] I think you're, uh, exemplary of this idea of, of living out loud. Um, and you, you live a [00:12:00] certain lifestyle, but for the benefit of everyone else, you seem to be, uh on-camera and, you know, explaining to people how you're doing it. You're, you're doing it for in service to others. You know, I spoke a little bit about before we came on the podcast about, you know, how this week in particular, you're, you're looking to help as many people as possible, but before we like jump into the book itself, which is what I really want to jump into today.
[00:12:24] Um, can you just maybe explain to the listeners who perhaps haven't come across you before, what it is you do while you do it? Um, and if you could even categorize yourself of what you do.
[00:12:37] Dan: [00:12:37] Yeah, that's a good question. Actually, I feel
[00:12:38] Richie: [00:12:38] it's a few, few ways to come back at that one.
[00:12:41] Dan: [00:12:41] Um,
[00:12:43] Richie: [00:12:43] so I
[00:12:45] Dan: [00:12:45] didn't always know what I want to do a lot of people don't right.
[00:12:50] So in your show, being a rugby player that thought my career would be in
[00:12:54] Richie: [00:12:54] rugby and be a professional to the end of my days. And then it'd be a TV presenter. And I thought, yeah, the dream I'm on [00:13:00] track. Everything's going really well. We can have these plans and missions for ourselves. And then it like, like a lot of, you know, that didn't pan out as I liked.
[00:13:08] And the injury just completely threw
[00:13:09] Dan: [00:13:09] it like to
[00:13:11] Richie: [00:13:11] the floor and I had to regroup and, and, uh, and I then realized that my experience in rehabilitating myself and fixing my body and understanding what mental health actually was and being able to address it and develop my own tools or methods to improve my wellbeing.
[00:13:31] I just thought, well, what I've just learned and the things that I've been through. And the things that I've learned along the way, as hard as they have been, and as challenging as they have been an overwhelming at times, all of that experience allows me to understand that other people will be in that same space.
[00:13:51] And maybe I could share my journey and what I learned and the tools that I used to help others, because [00:14:00] that's what I would have liked to have had in my life at the early stages when I was really lost and
[00:14:06] Dan: [00:14:06] didn't really know what I was going to do with myself. And when I come
[00:14:11] Richie: [00:14:11] on camera, now, I'm just trying to think about, well, what resonates with
[00:14:13] Dan: [00:14:13] me today in this moment?
[00:14:15] What have I been
[00:14:16] Richie: [00:14:16] through today this week? What have I seen in my clients? What I've, what have I talked about that I feel will be of value to someone else that might need that little bit of positive energy or a bit of positive guidance to help them out of that situation? Because what happens is we get in our head and we think the world's ending, and then we think we've failed and we think we've not had a great day or someone's car like sucked all our positive energy out was.
[00:14:42] And then we, we, we get deflated and sometimes it can take someone to go, Hey, it's all good. It's normal part of the journey.
[00:14:52] Dan: [00:14:52] And
[00:14:52] Richie: [00:14:52] maybe just looking at, you need to look in a different way. Have you moved today? So I'm just that person that's in your feed to remind you, like, how is your [00:15:00] day you go in, how are you feeling in yourself today?
[00:15:02] You need to create a little shift. And then when I think about like all of these things that I share, that my experience, I don't know everything, but I like to stay, you know, the mentality that I'm a human being, speaking to other human beings that probably going through other human things, similar to myself, we're not robots.
[00:15:22] So I think like, well, what do I have to share? I feel might be a welcome bit of. Insight into someone else's world that will help them through that moment in time. And I want to simplify it because it needs to be simple. If it's going to resonate with me, I like simple tools, simple practices that lift your vibe,
[00:15:45] Dan: [00:15:45] no
[00:15:46] Chris: [00:15:46] speak.
[00:15:46] And the like, just so people can see you. Okay. Um, Richie is a cool dude. Okay. As far as I can see from the outside, looking in, you skate, you surf ex [00:16:00] rugby player, Yogi, and like the way you talk and the way you present, I don't know anyone like you. Okay. I would resonate with you because of your past, because of how you look, I would automatically be drawn to someone like you because I'm like, Oh, he kind of, he looks cool.
[00:16:15] Okay. Well, you're doing stuff the way you speak. And you're talking about vibration, you're talking about energy. And normally if someone came up to me, I'm just going to give the cliches here. Okay. It'd be wearing a certain type of thing. They'd probably have like rocks and they'd be talking to me about, and the energy of rocks, whatever.
[00:16:31] Okay. But you've presented such a way that I can consume it. And that's why I was drawn to you. And that's why when you speak, I listen and I can make sense of it and I can kind of go, yeah. What Richard is saying. Actually, I can apply that to myself. You know, like you're, uh, you know, you're into, um, resistance training and different forms of training and, and, and different types of insurance training, et cetera.
[00:16:52] I can get into that. But when then, then on the other side of that, when I see you doing flow yoga and Vinyasa and all the stuff that is a little [00:17:00] bit outside of the realm of what, you know, uh, men are accepting of, I think that people are becoming more accepting of it, but it's just a little bit out there when you fit all of those things into who you are.
[00:17:14] Are you reaching Norton? I can kind of go, Oh, I can play into that. Like, this guy makes sense to me and I can follow that. And all I can actually, you know, emulate that I can copy some of the stuff he's doing and I can speak that way. And I can say the word energy in the conversation and people are going to scoff at me and go, what the fuck you talking to dude, just, you know, go away.
[00:17:31] Um, but you seem to do it in a way that it resonates with people. Is that manufactured or is that, you know, just the, the, the, all of the things that you've done in your life that have come in to become who you are right at this moment.
[00:17:44] Richie: [00:17:44] That's what came up for me then actually, and I've not really talked
[00:17:47] Dan: [00:17:47] about this actually before, uh, in this way.
[00:17:50] So when I went from being a rugby player to. A yoga teacher and a breath
[00:17:57] Richie: [00:17:57] work teacher and someone who does what they do on [00:18:00] social media, because I wasn't on the radar for a long time. I was a trainer for 10 years and I just, I was a personal trainer, private trainer, a personal coach, just sharing my methods with people that want to hear about it.
[00:18:11] I got snapped up by a couple of high-profile people that basically took me around the world as their personal coach. And it was in that process that I realized that, Oh my God, when someone is able to apply these simple things consistently, the way that I apply them to my own life, the results come. And I thought there's more people that need to know this, but I need to simplify even more.
[00:18:36] So it just, I guess, allows people to look at nutrition and physical training and mental training and improving their overall health without looking at 12 week transformation programs and, you know, intense training,
[00:18:53] Dan: [00:18:53] um, rituals
[00:18:55] Richie: [00:18:55] and fancy
[00:18:56] Dan: [00:18:56] yoga
[00:18:56] Richie: [00:18:56] words, because that's not how I learn. [00:19:00] My teacher
[00:19:02] Dan: [00:19:02] said to me,
[00:19:04] Richie: [00:19:04] you look to you, you've got all these injuries from rugby and it's because you just stressed your system out.
[00:19:10] So you need to release that tension and de stress your system to get more clarity and to allow your body to function and flow and breathe better. Those words have nothing to do with yoga in my head, it was like, someone's talking to me about my body. And I was getting it because he saw the person that I was, and that's why he became my teacher.
[00:19:33] And that's why I did my yoga teacher training with that person. So it was my experience working one to one with people, but also teach working with teachers that just simplify the practice that allowed me to connect with it and then go on my own journey. I hardly ever do any traditional yoga anymore because I realized that my practice needed to be something mental and physical and simple and time efficient.
[00:19:59] The, [00:20:00] I then feel would be able to be consistent and more achievable on a daily basis. So to come online, all I'm trying to do is be that messenger just to pass on what I was taught, because I believe even you guys, you know, not maybe being yoga teachers, if I taught you through a yoga practice and I just helped you connect with the body parts that you were using and you felt better because of it.
[00:20:24] You are likely to carry on that practice. Sure. Then you might never do yoga again, but you might do that practice because that resonated for you. So all I'm doing is just trying to, I gave you these, these gifts or this insight that I had hope, and it sticks because you know, your health matters and you know, movement matters.
[00:20:43] Know you need to take care of your body and your lungs need to work properly. So that's improve on those things that you need to do every day anyway, but just take power in learning about the things that are probably the most important part for
[00:20:56] Dan: [00:20:56] you to feel
[00:20:57] Richie: [00:20:57] empowered and then, and want to share that with other [00:21:00] people, because you feel so confident that it worked for you.
[00:21:02] So you see how it works. It's like, I believe everybody can be a teacher. Sure. Whatever your profession is. If you're a human being with a heart, with lungs and a brain, you can, it prove your health, your mental health, your physical health, your emotional health. When you take control of the simple things that we can do every day.
[00:21:23] That lift our mood, that help with our digestion, that help with our breathing muscles, working better for us, that help us stay strong, that help our joints move better. So when you grasp that for me, like I did, it just gave me so much more confidence to want to share it because it wasn't hard for me to understand it.
[00:21:46] Wasn't hard for me to then regurgitate it. So when I come online now, when I have any conversation in a podcast, it's like, I'm just trying to speak my truth. That hopefully sparks enough curiosity in that person that didn't think it was for them [00:22:00] to try it. Yeah. And then hopefully that starts a positive chain of events that they then feel confident enough to do something about it and take ownership for their health, which we all should.
[00:22:13] No, one's fixing us for us. No pill fixes. There's nobody. That's going to do the work for you. Nobody's going to fix you. You've got to fix yourself, but get excited about that. Let not be somebody that fires you up. What do you want to do of your day? What do you want to achieve? Where do you want to go with your life?
[00:22:30] You're nothing without your health. So what can you do today? That's like a step in the right direction to work on that. So I think that empowers everybody. Right. I think about my grandma. I think my, my little brother, I think about my nieces and nephews, they get it, they get so hyped. When I talk about this, they're like, let's go for a walk.
[00:22:46] Okay. What we do just because it's like, do you know what? It's not that hard. It's
[00:22:50] Dan: [00:22:50] bringing
[00:22:50] Noel: [00:22:50] that reminder. Th that's a failure from you from you. Now. It strikes me my own stuff that I say, I went through all my stuff and then that's why I [00:23:00] became a psychotherapist. And it's that excitement. And cause I know people are a lot of people say to me, kind of like held it under is how obviously I'd imagine you would come across similar kind of stuff, if not the same, but there is heavy stuff to this and you can say, well, how does that not get you down?
[00:23:13] But that's, it's, it's being able to focus on, we're not ignoring stuff. It's the ability to be able to park stuff. We're absolutely not ignoring because think it's dangerous to ignore this stuff. I'll just, you know, suppress put that under the carpet. So I'm fine. You know? It's not, it's only a flesh wound to bring that the Mo the multiplayer quote, but it's important to acknowledge it, but not sit and live in it, be able to park it and then have that excitement.
[00:23:37] It's like the childlike excitement. Then when were kids there have some Pokemon cards and he's just so excited. He can't believe because he finally got some Pokemon cards, but it's, it's, it's a cool thing to see. And it just penalizes the coming back to what you said earlier, then it's just bouncing back from that and you get so much from it.
[00:23:53] You give back and then you get back and it's that give and take it's it's, it's amazing.
[00:23:58] Richie: [00:23:58] Well, that's a good thing to mention [00:24:00] there because I touched on it about everyone being a teacher. I feel like everybody has this ability or this, I guess, has the potential to make it part of their purpose is to be kind to others.
[00:24:15] Right? So you hear me say this quite a lot, but when we do these acts of kindness, and when we think about, you know, we see someone and we notice they're a bit down. We know, is that the heads down on the energy and how they're talking is, is, you know, is, is a bit deflated in that moment. You could recognize that and you have these tools, but you've done the work yourself.
[00:24:37] Or you recognize that in someone else, because you know, you've been there or, you know, what's lifted you back up because you did that practice. You had that chat with that person. You went for that walk. You did that swim, you got on your bike, you just put your arm around someone, you hook someone it's like instantly, like, because in their world, in that moment, you're like your head down.
[00:24:57] That's your world. It's, it's like, uh, it feels [00:25:00] lonely and it feels overwhelming. It's hard to see the light to bring yourself out of it. And we all go through these situations. These times embrace different levels of intensity, but how nice is it? The thing that everybody can do that you don't have to be a guru or a therapist or a teacher.
[00:25:15] You just have to be a good human being. That's got their eyes open looking to do good every day. Right. And this, it doesn't have to be, even in person you think about on social media and the world, the virtual world that we're in, just looking at someone in the eye, or just being kind about sending a message that is like, look good today.
[00:25:34] Wow. I'm proud of you. It's like, Oh, thanks man. You know, it's like, you gave him that before. It was like, Oh, thanks bro. You know, it was like, yeah, that's nice. Thank you very much. You know, instant little lift. So I just think like how cool is it to be? We all have this ability to do something nice and kind and thoughtful and on a deeper level.
[00:25:54] When you, when you start to practice for yourself and you become more prepared for [00:26:00] things coming at you and you stay more resilient and you can stay positive and can stay strong for others because you've done the work again, you don't have to be a teacher. You just have to recognize what worked for you, and then be able to share that insight with other people that trust you.
[00:26:17] I can't help someone's whole family. If that one person is the only person I've ever connect with, but that person then can help the rest of their family because they've spent time with me and it's resonated with them. So their language, their energy and the respect and trust of their family that they have for them is going to allow them to adopt it without even ever come into contact with me.
[00:26:36] So I love that that can be passed on. So that's in my, going back to your point, every time I'm on social media or doing a talk or teaching my crew, it's like, okay, let's just hope someone passes this on. I just hope this carries a bit further forwards. And that just gives me that peace of mind that at least it was worth trying.
[00:26:58] At least I'm trying, [00:27:00] rather than just giving
[00:27:01] Dan: [00:27:01] up and just, you
[00:27:02] Richie: [00:27:02] know, not even putting any energy into it.
[00:27:06] Chris: [00:27:06] I think your unique gift Richie is that you're familiar with the story of Helen of Troy and the Trojan horse. Yes, I am. Yeah. So like, Like, I'll give you an anecdote. Yoga for me would have been like, when we played rugby yoga in something you did for stretching, it was just a fancy word for stretching.
[00:27:23] Right. And, uh, we've had periods of lockdown here where gyms had been closed and like the gym is my safe space. It's where I go to kind of zone out. I love the space of the gym. You know, exercising outside is fun too, but something about the gym for me is just always resonate with me. Jim's closed, couldn't do anything.
[00:27:40] So I found you and I found this guy flow. Um, he has a channel on YouTube and our flow, like, okay. So the first thing that resonated with me with both of you was you're both muscular and you both did yoga. So I was kind of going, Oh, Trojan horse. These guys, I could hang out with these dudes and we could probably [00:28:00] talk about lifting some weights, but they're over in the corner then doing Vinyasa flow.
[00:28:04] So I took to, um, his YouTube channel and I started doing, uh, his stuff and I went to some of your IgE lives. And I started doing, I already had a meditation practice, but I just started embedding both in. I think it's important for people to understand that our spotlight, this idea that the nanny of the thing is the essence of the thing.
[00:28:20] And I think he's wrong. I think the experience of the thing is the essence of the thing and language sometimes obfuscates the idea or like the actual benefits of what we're doing and everything you're doing makes sense to me when I do it, because I feel good after. But if you started applying all this kind of, I call it Wu language to it.
[00:28:39] I'm kind of going, Oh shit, I can't, I can't get that. Doesn't get me. You know what I mean? Like I can't get in there, but whereas when I see the two of you and like Flo is, you know, Jack, okay. And as soon as I saw that, and as soon I, I took it to one of my friends in work and went, would you the yoga, because this guy is doing the yoga.
[00:28:56] And he was like, yeah, who is this guy? Why is he so muscular? [00:29:00] And he was like, if you can get muscular like that, by doing yoga, I'm doing yoga. And he started doing yoga in, in, in Lockton as well. So it does work, but you know, I think we need to get into the book, lift your vibe. Okay. And we've talked about vibration and vibing, and I would class you as a volume B
[00:29:17] Richie: [00:29:17] dude, I smashed the
[00:29:19] Chris: [00:29:19] word vibe to bear for people that perhaps, you know, don't buy into that, you know, what does it mean to be vibey?
[00:29:27] What's a vibration, you know, what are you really talking about? And then let's jump into the, the essence of the book and you know what you're exposing here.
[00:29:34] Richie: [00:29:34] Yeah. Um, cool. Cool. It's funny. You mentioned flow. Actually. I actually practice with Flo, um, what a cool name, right? Flow
[00:29:44] Chris: [00:29:44] flow disclose the name of their channel.
[00:29:46] Like you couldn't have a better name. Bree is his wife's name and his name is flow has changed it to breathe and flow like there yogis, you could not have more of a kind of like faith thing.
[00:29:59] Richie: [00:29:59] This [00:30:00] is what's important. I think to mention there is that there is, there's going to be a teacher for everybody, and this is what I love about yoga
[00:30:07] Dan: [00:30:07] because.
[00:30:08] Yoga was a real doorway
[00:30:09] Richie: [00:30:09] for me that I hope it is everybody just to start to be more aware of themselves and to strip back a few layers, get rid of the ego a little bit and just to regroup and give yourself a little bit of room and the book which we'll go into a minute is that right? Um, was, was kinda like all about the hailing and the vibration I got from practice.
[00:30:31] And I just tried to like put it into words and just using flow as an example is quite intense. Yeah. He's very traditional, but he's also someone who, you know, practices what he preaches from a very disciplined level. I don't see, I don't see myself as that disciplined, but I am someone who practices that sees the value in consistency, but doesn't beat them.
[00:30:56] Doesn't beat themselves up. It doesn't quite flow as I'd [00:31:00] planned or look or sound or feel as I'd hoped it would. So my role and the book was about simplifying the practice to be more of a feeling that I want everybody to tap into, no matter where you are on your journey. I want it to be that teacher that would be able to get anybody in the world to move a bit better, to breathe a bit more mindfully.
[00:31:26] And if they thought that, Oh, this was nice. I like making that shape. And you want to go into all that elegant yoga posing and be more traditional than great. I'm glad I was part of that journey. And the book is all about like breaking down. Some of the simple practices that I feel have been like the foundations and fundamentals for me to actually keep my shit together for the last few years.
[00:31:50] But I wanted to make it sound like it was achievable for anybody. There's no Yogi words in there. There's [00:32:00] no intense practices in there. It's addressing breathing better on the simple, cool tools that you can all practice wherever you are. You breathe anyway, why not make it better? And then movements that usually are super easy, super quick, that fix poor posture, back pain, neck pain, shoulder rounding issues from being hunched over laptops and things masks and opening hips.
[00:32:31] Because most people four have tight hips from being sat down for too much. What are the main problems we all face and I've thought? Right. Well, let me just build this book that involves all of these tools in easy to follow that you can then give to anyone, a member of your family. And there'll be a page that they will resonate with because it's the book that I would have liked to have found when I was younger before I destroyed my body in [00:33:00] various different ways.
[00:33:01] And felt like I had no hope and thought that my life was over. Um, so indirectly maybe introducing the book, the book is called lift your vibe and the vibration in it. The vibe vibration. I like to think, and there is science behind this. Don't let, don't let me get into neuroscience right now. But when you think about like break it down energy, if I am light and I'm slouched and I'm talking negatively and I'm just moaning and complaining and you are going to feel it before long, and it's going to bring all your energy levels down your vibration down, unless you're Bulletproof and your vibration is high.
[00:33:50] And you're like, nothing is destroying my vibration right now. I am like on it. There may be your vibration will affect my vibration and you'll lift me up. [00:34:00] So how can I practice or learn these tools, these practices to keep my vibration top, top, and when it drops, how can I like pick it back up or sorry, how can I pick it back up to get back on track to realign down that positive path?
[00:34:26] Because I noticed that my energy was low. My vibe was low for whatever reason, all I'm doing is I'm bringing myself back on track. So in the book I have food in a lot of people, never know I used to be, I'm a trained chef. A lot of people don't know a trained chef since my time as a private coach, uh, to like cook.
[00:34:50] Um, prepare all these healthy meals for them, for clients to get them shredded for a movie or whatever it was. So I'm like, right. I need to make it fun. I need to make it creative, but I need to make it nourishing and [00:35:00] flavorsome and colorful, like my vibe. So the book involved, like the kind of food I eat, I live by that.
[00:35:08] I've lived on for years that are always staples for me. But now hearty, my grandma's got recipe in there. My mom's got a recipe and then my dad's got a recipe in there, but it's like, we're from Yorkshire. We like our food. We like it. Hearty and flavorsome and like filling but healthy there's movement in that it's like, okay, if you've only got five minutes, let me give you a five minute practice that will rapidly boost your energy, snap you out of a head, funk and energize you for the rest of your day.
[00:35:37] She'd been sat at your desk for awhile, vibration with breath. If you're going to breathe now, you're all breathing. I can see you over. Show him we're on videos. You're your mouth is closed. You have to breathe through your nose. So I can tell none of your mouth breathers, but people that don't know that mouth breathing leads to upper chest breathing, that then feeds into [00:36:00] like this stress response, that one little shift in how they breathe in for the nose, down into the belly, hold your breath for a little bit longer and then slow down.
[00:36:11] Your breath out will trigger a common response, which might snap you out of a stressful situation like that rather than have a panic attack because you haven't addressed it. So the book is basically broken down into like one minute, five minute, 15 minute, half an hour, and an hour rituals as I call them.
[00:36:32] And it involves everything from going out for a walk in nature, you know, how powerful it is to get outside, you know, how I moved to nature because it was like a cornerstone of me keeping my head in the right place and being close to the ocean.
[00:36:46] Chris: [00:36:46] Can we kind of go through a taxonomy of the, I guess what the, all the pieces of, uh, you know, Richie's vibe in this era.
[00:36:54] Okay. Just from, you know, witnessing, um, you from the outside in who you [00:37:00] are, I'm going to kind of give you like the cursory look at what I think was maybe Richie, avoid me go, okay, come at me. And we can, we can, we can maybe go through one or two of them. So in more detailed to give people kind of a, uh, a few nuggets from what's in the book exercise, I'm going to call it movement rather than exercise.
[00:37:15] Cause I think movement classify it as movement because it's involves yoga and involves. I saw you doing kettlebell workouts. Um, I see you've done some stuff with Laird Hamilton with like underwater training and all that kind of stuff is XPT, I think is the name of the, I can't remember the title they've given you that diet, uh, obviously diet is important.
[00:37:38] Mindfulness, I guess, and breath work nature of classified in there, because I think like you talk about nature a lot. You spend a lot of time outside and you're obviously advocating the use of nature for lifting your vibe. Fun. I would say you just seem like a fun dude. You know, I think you'd probably be, just be a fun guy.
[00:37:55] Like I watched told you before we came on the show that I watched a couple of your blogs. I think there's only one actually. [00:38:00] Um, and I, I was asking you to do more because I was kinda like, you know, if I, if I watch someone's blogs, because it's exactly the lifting of my vibe that I want from it, I'm not watching a vlog because I want to feel worse after I watch it.
[00:38:13] I want, I want to watch someone's stuff. Cause I want them to kind of inspire me to feel better about life, you know, and I watched one where you were kind of traveling around, doing what to surf through, to yoga, you know, We, we eat the same part in the morning, by the way. Um, so fun learning, I would say to be able to do everything you do, you would have to be a self learner.
[00:38:33] You have to be someone who is excited about the idea of picking up something new, um, sleep, you know, sleep is like of the most important let's say on the taxonomy. I would put it number one, I would probably assume you would do the same thing. Um, and then travel because you seem to be a guy who travel. I saw you add one of the, um, the Eva.
[00:38:54] Thruxton not to try and Broxton.
[00:38:56] Dan: [00:38:56] Um, yeah, I've had a few different bikes
[00:38:58] Richie: [00:38:58] and luckily to have a [00:39:00] partnership with triumph and they keep teasing me with different bikes,
[00:39:03] Dan: [00:39:03] a bit spoiled
[00:39:04] Chris: [00:39:04] in bikes at the moment to myself actually.
[00:39:06] Richie: [00:39:06] Yeah, well that, that was my birthday present to myself last year. Yeah.
[00:39:09] Dan: [00:39:09] I, I got Jodie to make me one very cool for my birthday, um, which has
[00:39:15] Richie: [00:39:15] kind of kept me sane as well.
[00:39:17] That's my number one, mindfulness
[00:39:19] Dan: [00:39:19] living in Wales as well. It's a, it's a great place to have a bike.
[00:39:23] Chris: [00:39:23] Yeah. So that's the taxonomy and I'm on my right. If I missed anything in, in,
[00:39:28] Richie: [00:39:28] I mean, we, we know you boxed everything off there in the book, we actually do have the chapters,
[00:39:33] Dan: [00:39:33] um, uh, breathing movement, nutrition, and sleep.
[00:39:37] So it's basically
[00:39:38] Richie: [00:39:38] broken down into four different pillars and each chapter has a minute, five minutes, 15 minutes, half an hour and an hour practice that incorporates for, you know, for people that don't have much time, simple practices that they can do wherever they are. Even if they've only got a minute, they can do a breath practice or, you know, to improve their [00:40:00] sleep.
[00:40:00] This exercise is breathing exercise might help them calm down and quiet down the monkey mind,
[00:40:05] Dan: [00:40:05] um,
[00:40:06] Richie: [00:40:06] movement, everything from outdoor time, walking meditations, uh, exercise, riding your bike, your choice of exercise, getting out in nature in any way.
[00:40:15] Dan: [00:40:15] Um, And then the food wise, there's, there's
[00:40:18] Richie: [00:40:18] recipes in there.
[00:40:19] There's quick fixes of like what you can make, if you want to got five minutes and you just want a quick snack, but you need to like nourish your body, not just eat some junk. And it's
[00:40:28] Dan: [00:40:28] all plant-based as well. So I want it to give people some
[00:40:30] Richie: [00:40:30] really hearty food
[00:40:31] Dan: [00:40:31] that, you know, really does, you know, nourish your insights and you
[00:40:37] Richie: [00:40:37] just add more protein if you, if you decide to.
[00:40:40] So I'm really
[00:40:41] Dan: [00:40:41] proud of it. I'm really proud of it. Are you plant-based? I am not fully plant-based, but what I realized a few years ago, uh, my, uh, my food intake was all out of whack. I wasn't really listening to my body. I was
[00:40:56] Richie: [00:40:56] just eating protein. I was like a gym junkie. Give me all the [00:41:00] protein,
[00:41:01] Dan: [00:41:01] vegetables, this loads of meat
[00:41:04] Richie: [00:41:04] and just any
[00:41:05] Dan: [00:41:05] protein.
[00:41:06] Richie: [00:41:06] You know, I was that guy that walked around with like
[00:41:08] Dan: [00:41:08] five liter gallon drum of like.
[00:41:11] Richie: [00:41:11] Water
[00:41:11] Dan: [00:41:11] and a protein shake.
[00:41:13] Richie: [00:41:13] And I took on a box of tea and a protein, uh, Toby,
[00:41:17] Dan: [00:41:17] my, my backpack. Yeah.
[00:41:18] Chris: [00:41:18] But in terms of, you know, what you consume, um, you know, sometimes I, I, I'm afraid to call things diets, like at the moment I'm restricting my calories and would people say like, why are you doing that?
[00:41:29] And I can't really say I'm dieting, but that's the traditional thing to say, like in the bodybuilding world, or, you know, if you're cutting down, like if you're on a rugby, very professional date, you needed to call it waste, they call it cutting weight. If you're a fighter, they call it a cutting weight. But when you, when you attribute the word diet to something, I think people get scared because they assume it's, I have to eat certain types of food over and over again and restrict my calories and kind of feel like shit.
[00:41:52] And it will reflect well on the amount of body fat I have. Let's just talk about diet from a Richard Norton perspective. How do you view [00:42:00] food? You know, the consumption of food, uh, you know, you know, let, let us know, let us into your, um, your, your diet and what you do consume.
[00:42:08] Richie: [00:42:08] Okay. So. It does vary constantly.
[00:42:13] I see it as like a big yeah. Experiment. And I think everybody should look at it in the same way I feel because we are all different in our own way, whether that's self-defense to the intolerances that appear over time or something we've inherited or genetic or where we live in the food we have access to w w we're all going to be needing something a little bit different, but there are foundations to what most people that are human beings need with micronutrients and macronutrients to repair the body and to energize our body and to give us what we need to support our incredible system.
[00:42:53] So that being said, I feel my attitude to this is [00:43:00] I like to be intuitive and intuitive eating. Is not easy just to grasp straight away. If you don't know about protein fats and carbohydrates and everything else and what your body needs. So that's not go into that because it's a minefield, but it's more about, I know my body benefits from breaks like fasting, and this is something that's happened over the last few years where I, I rest my digestive system because I used to just eat five meals a day, six meals a day when I was bodybuilding for rugby and stuff, I just felt heavy and lethargic.
[00:43:36] And I was just a big lump and I wasn't very intuitive around me over eating stuff. I just thought that was what was right for me. So now I have this mentality where I know based on the last few years of experimenting with plant-based foods, Um, and even going more vegan orientated, because I was like, I need to learn a bit about this if I'm going to talk to people about it.
[00:43:59] And I [00:44:00] think everyone should go into it that curious mind, don't just go, Oh, that worked for that person. I better try it because they're shredded or they're massive or they're skinny or whatever. It's like, what makes you feel good? What kind of eating makes you feel good in yourself? What improves your sleeping?
[00:44:18] What makes you feel energy and what doesn't? So it works both ways. You've got to like try things out. Definitely. So without getting lost here, so everyone can kind of like appreciate this is we all need to find what combination works for us, what method works for us. But if you remember, we need to support our muscles and, uh, uh, digestion.
[00:44:51] Can only take so much. We can't overwhelm it without something feeling stressed. So what I find really helps me [00:45:00] navigate it and hopefully everybody else that we might listen to this. So I'm trying not to trip myself up or say something that choose my words carefully. So if I describe mine, go back to your point.
[00:45:12] I wake up and if I'm not hungry, I don't eat. So I'm listening to my body. I'm not just like it's breakfast time. I need to eat. And a bit of stuff. My face I eat when I'm ready to eat. And when I'm full, I stop eating. That's kind of like how I roll, but not everyone has that. I guess awareness. They just, because they think it's breakfast, lunch time, snack time, or they're bored.
[00:45:37] Or like, if you become more conscious of your eating habits, you tend to make bad decisions. If you eat when you're emotional, you tend to make bad decisions. If you tend, if you eat and, um, you're bored or you're knackered, or you're, you're like, maybe you've not drank enough water. You might feel that hunger sensation come [00:46:00] in and they eat.
[00:46:01] So they make bad decisions. So I just tend to be very mindful.
[00:46:06] Chris: [00:46:06] Yeah. I guess a way of, um, of diet, you know, there's a, there's like a, I think everyone has a why for food. Okay. Some people have an emotional resonance with food. A lot of people associate diet with body image and it is kind of a, something that is, um, let's say the inputs and outputs of diet are reflected in how you look.
[00:46:26] And a lot of people are consumed by that idea, but there is more, I think there's an more expansive why with diet, once you get past the idea of. What I put in my mouth is either to make me feel good or to make me look or good or bad. There's a lot of, you know, you can go into like gut flora and you know, when you say the why your food and what makes you feel good for someone right now listening, it could be, Oh, it makes me feel good to go on a diet because I'm losing body fat.
[00:46:51] Whereas when I think about diet, I think I've gotten to the point where I see it as a utility. And I feel like what I [00:47:00] consume for me, the idea or the definition of feeling good is if my body feels good, my gut feels good. My digestion is good. And I also feel good because, you know, I kind of went against the idea of, of, um, you know, you know, exercise for looking good for a long time.
[00:47:15] It was always like, Oh, it's for performance or whatever. But to be honest, I'm at a stage in my life where it's bullshit. I don't have any, anything to perform for. There's no spontaneous fucking a hundred meter dash going to happen down the street here. You know, I want to look good and I'm not afraid to say it anymore.
[00:47:29] But I also want to feel good. So I don't want to be walking around with that five gallon drum of water anymore on the, you know, the bunch of protein and the way it makes my stomach feel like shit. And I don't want to eat too much red meat because I don't want to have heart disease when I'm 50. But you know, when you break it down with the macros, you know, you know, calorie in calorie out, I think most of the research now is basically that, you know, calories in calories out is what matters, but just like you I've experimented.
[00:47:52] And my why is expanding to, I want my stomach to feel good. So I eat a shit load of fermented foods. Now, um, I [00:48:00] drink a lot of kombucha. Um, I don't eat as much meat and if I do eat meat, I try to source it from somewhere that's sustainable because part of the way of diet for me now is the environment and what's happening with, you know, uh, agriculture and, you know, uh, cropping and all sorts of stuff.
[00:48:16] And that's a new thing for me to die to know becomes something about the environment, but the why is important. I think because if your, why is just to look good and feel good or sorry to look better. You kind of eat, like, I don't know what you've probably seen the if it fits your macros movement where you're fasting for like 16 hours and eat this massive bowl of shit, basically like donuts and whatever, and it calls down Instagram and they're shredded and everyone's going, yeah, well, this guy did it, but I'm like, yeah, open that guy up in 20 years time, I look at his organs and I look, take his blood glucose levels and see what he, you know, he's probably developing type two diabetes as we speak, but I think the way you look at it is about that utility too.
[00:48:57] And I think it's really important for people to do that [00:49:00] experimentation and to figure it out. And then, you know, there's an emotional thing you have to peel back. Um, and, and let go of a lot of stuff too.
[00:49:06] Richie: [00:49:06] Yeah, it's interesting. I don't want to talk too much and go down that rabbit hole of, uh, what you did touch upon that as much as I want to, because I love how these conversations with people, but.
[00:49:17] I think about like, you know, people listening to this right now, and they're, they're not happy with their weight and they're not happy with their energy levels and not sleeping very well that they're maybe they've got body image issues and they're trying to find a way to fix, you know, their, their physical appearance because they're carrying weight and they don't have to shift it, or they just want to make bad decisions or they've got bad habits.
[00:49:36] They emotionally eat. A lot of people are very aware of these things. They just don't have to shift them, or they don't know how to, you know, or they don't have the information or the knowledge because it's just a minefield out there. And people always try to like, just mess with your head and, and pull you in with clever marketing.
[00:49:52] So how can you simplify this for people? So my mentality is like, my health is so important to me. [00:50:00] If I don't prioritize, making better decisions to improve my health,
[00:50:06] Dan: [00:50:06] I'm, there's no
[00:50:07] Richie: [00:50:07] point in me making big dreams and trying to fix anything else. If I'm not fixing the things that I do have power over, which is what I eat, the way I move, the way I breathe.
[00:50:17] Um, I guess my attitude. So they all kind of come into the same choices. So when I think about eating, I'm like, right, well, I look at that donut and I like to look at that donut, but I know if I eat 12, I'm going to feel like shit. And it's definitely not going to nourish my soul or made me feel very energized.
[00:50:35] But if I have one, I'm going to enjoy it and I'm going to be happy about that decision. But I know 90% of the rest of my day is going to be like nutritious food, lots of vegetables, lots of green things, a good source of protein that I know is going to fill me up and support my muscle growth. Right. It doesn't have to be fancy.
[00:50:54] It doesn't have to be anything special, but that's it in black and white, if you know, [00:51:00] you're eating 12 donuts and you're only having one salad or one healthy meal, where do you think the balance is going to turn. And then I think, right, well, if you are overweight and you're looking to lose weight and get slimmer, you know, your, hopefully most people know now it's because you're eating more than you're burning.
[00:51:17] Most of the time, there's a small area that people avoid that because of certain things happen with their body. But pretty much everybody is under that same rule. So it comes down to discipline. It comes down to consistency. So if you're looking for a motivator to make bad decisions and change your eating habits, to lose weight, get bigger, feel better, sleep better, whatever it is, what's the reason you have to make those decisions because no one's feeding you anymore, unless you're a baby is on you.
[00:51:51] Yeah. So it's like take ownership of that. You have the control. If you notice you're emotionally in, if you know your cupboards are full of shit and [00:52:00] you eat junk food because it's there stop buying it. And if you keep eating, you're not happy where you are. It's on you. So take that responsibility and you need to change your why, because if you're not thinking about your health and every time you eat shit.
[00:52:15] Yeah. Anytime you'd like, just bury yourself deep in junk food. That's not supporting you. You're going down a slippery slope. That's not going to end up well for you. So rather than let that be something that makes you feel crap, let that be, that wakes you up and snaps you out of that habits, that you do something about it for yourself.
[00:52:33] Yeah. You know, so it doesn't, I feel like we need to simplify everything just like I do with my movement, just like do with my breathing. Don't worry about getting corporate, all these diets, stop eating all the crap food that you know is not good, good for you. And start to make bad decisions where you can, wherever you can just like level off that balancing scale, less junk, and then start to feel the difference.
[00:52:55] And then you're going to start to enjoy that feeling. And then you get to forget about this [00:53:00] being something that you keep going back to. More than that, the healthy stuff. I like my crisps. I like my popcorn. I like my burgers. I like all these things that most people see bad. They're not bad. It's just when you have more of that and less of the stuff that really you know is good for you, that's when the tables turn.
[00:53:19] So I want people to kind of like feel empowered by the fact that they can make bad choices without disrupting all the fun stuff that they've enjoyed for so long. Same with movement. Same with your mindset. Be empowered by having that control over the things that you do have control over and think about your health as a priority, that to stay motivated and to make changes.
[00:53:44] Well,
[00:53:44] Dan: [00:53:44] listen, I, I
[00:53:45] Chris: [00:53:45] think that, uh, judging from the way you've spoken today and I think you do espouse, um, I think it's your unique gift, the way you can intelligibly explain, um, and coalesce lots of different things into something that is [00:54:00] consumable and digestible too. Um, you know, the layman, right? Because it, I think there is a lot of barriers to entry for, you know, fitness and diet and all kind of stuff.
[00:54:09] There's lots of things. You, unfortunately, most people won't go to you unless they have come to a brick wall and they need it. Most people who are listening, won't pick up on the idea of, you know, um, consuming food for utility and then what you've just disposed on there until it becomes a problem. And then they have to go back a bit.
[00:54:25] And I think like for you, and for me, in my experience, you have to go through all that Robbie and the injuries and all of the stuff you have to go through the emotional turmoil and all that kind of stuff to get to who you are now. And people just have to go on that journey and then eventually come out the other side.
[00:54:38] But I think when they're ready, pick up your book, pick up the book, pick up the one minute pieces and the 10 minute pieces first. Cause I always think like you got to find that Goldilocks zone or the low-hanging fruit to figure out that it actually works. And then if you feel like, you know, the yoga practice is something that's interests, you.
[00:54:56] Go deeper into that. And you probably go too far into that and you'll pull it back a bit and then go [00:55:00] deeper into the meditative practice. Probably go too far into that and pull it back a bit. And then you kind of find that Goldilocks zone where Richie Norton is sitting right now with that emanating, these positive vibes.
[00:55:09] But I want to finish off, uh, Richie with, um, so quick for our questions. And we always ask people these 10 questions, we can kind of five seconds or last answer. It never really works out that way, but you know, come up with whatever you can as quick as quick as you can. Okay. So you ready?
[00:55:26] Dan: [00:55:26] Yeah, let's do it.
[00:55:28] This is your last day. So beating around the Bush
[00:55:33] 10 questions. Come on five seconds on the clock. We already know y'all need a lot of
[00:55:38] Richie: [00:55:38] questions. Come on, pick up the bags.
[00:55:43] Chris: [00:55:43] Question one. If you were to host a VIP dinner with three vibe-y people, dead or alive, who would they be and why?
[00:55:52] Dan: [00:55:52] Um,
[00:55:55] Richie: [00:55:55] Bob Marley Mohammed Ali and [00:56:00] David Attenborough.
[00:56:01] Dan: [00:56:01] Wow.
[00:56:02] Chris: [00:56:02] What a conversation would ensue.
[00:56:05] All right. Question two. Apart from your own new book, lift your vibe. What book would you recommend to read?
[00:56:12] Richie: [00:56:12] Oh God, there's so many. I'm I'm, I'm one of those people who has like five books right now open because I can't just follow one
[00:56:23] of them. Um, let me think. What can I, what have I got in my eyes site right now? Actually? Um, uh, B 2.0, have you got that yet? No, it's the second chapter. Second. Um, second book from good to great.
[00:56:43] Chris: [00:56:43] Oh yeah. Good, great. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay.
[00:56:46] Dan: [00:56:46] Just basically entrepreneurs and all their wisdom,
[00:56:51] Chris: [00:56:51] Jim Collins. Yeah.
[00:56:54] Richie: [00:56:54] Um, but yeah, it's, um, a few of my powers that I know like feed on this stuff and [00:57:00] put it into practice and do very well from it.
[00:57:02] They they've given it some good ratings and so far I'm actually going right. I'm in it. I mean, I'm in it. So it's a new one as well. So I thought that might help
[00:57:12] Chris: [00:57:12] prominent in that space. Like if you're going to read someone in that space, read him, but just fun fact, before we move on to question three, a stack of books, I learned this recently because I do the same as you.
[00:57:19] I don't read one book. I have to read like three or four at the same time because I get bored and I move on stock of books of unread books. And Japanese is called sun docu. They have a word for it, a specific word, sun docu, who would remember that one question for name something weird or absurd that you love
[00:57:37] Richie: [00:57:37] weird or absurd,
[00:57:42] Dan: [00:57:42] weird or absurd.
[00:57:47] Richie: [00:57:47] I'm trying to think of herself. I think all the stuff that I like is all pretty cool. Actually
[00:57:55] three, four, five weeks, but we're not. So, um, that's a really [00:58:00] interesting one. Actually.
[00:58:00] Chris: [00:58:00] You do balls the meditation balls. That's kind of weird.
[00:58:05] Richie: [00:58:05] Yeah. I mean, I actually do. Yeah, we can go with that one. We can go, go with that one.
[00:58:10] Chris: [00:58:10] Yeah,
[00:58:13] Richie: [00:58:13] there you go. Yeah. That's a better Tibetan singing bowl. There you go, mate.
[00:58:17] There you go. Yeah. Yeah. I guess it could be. I'm not sure if it's absurd, but a bit weird to some people. I take people in some weird trances when I do those sessions, actually. So yeah, they're a bit of a weird bit of kit. I actually have. The bowl is growing. Now you go,
[00:58:30] Chris: [00:58:30] Oh God, I feel I'm enlightened.
[00:58:32] Already
[00:58:34] Dan: [00:58:34] demo for all the listeners at home
[00:58:39] Chris: [00:58:39] named something you couldn't live without.
[00:58:43] Dan: [00:58:43] Mm. Oh, that's a good one.
[00:58:51] Richie: [00:58:51] Oh God. There's so many different things. Come into mind. Um, what, I'm probably gonna say [00:59:00] my
[00:59:00] Dan: [00:59:00] surf board. Yeah. Surfing.
[00:59:05] Richie: [00:59:05] Surfing is, has been like a key part of me being where
[00:59:09] Dan: [00:59:09] I am right now. And it's such a
[00:59:11] Richie: [00:59:11] big part of my life right now. So I think just on the spot question. Yeah. I sit in my surf board being able to surf.
[00:59:20] Dan: [00:59:20] If I can
[00:59:20] Chris: [00:59:20] incorporate that. Fun fact about Richie for people who don't know. I think you started surfing at thirties
[00:59:25] Dan: [00:59:25] 31, 31 years old
[00:59:30] Chris: [00:59:30] concert for shit. So maybe, maybe I should start to no,
[00:59:34] Richie: [00:59:34] I've just been working with a guy actually, who is 39 years old. And he's just booked to go to the mentality is he only started surfing last year mentalities in Indonesia. So we just decided to make that his mission in lockdown is to find a hobby that he found really hard work that challenged him physically and mentally, because he was turning 40 and he thought that would be a bit of a hurdle.
[00:59:58] And he shreds. [01:00:00] So never feel like it's out of your reach. Some people think that it's too hard. It's too hard. It might be a little bit, you don't bounce as well when you're 40, you know, but you have to do a few more stretches and a bit more recovery work because it feels like you played rugby. If you get smashed about quite a bit.
[01:00:16] But another fun fact that a lot of people don't know is that I grew up in the middle East. My, I, I, I grew up in Saudi Arabia. A lot of people don't know that side of it. My dad used to work out there. I used to watch my dad play rugby in the sun with camels, like on the side of the road. It's quite a bizarre, quite bizarre, but I, uh, I'm very grateful for that time, but
[01:00:39] Dan: [01:00:39] the camel's good at rugby or where are they?
[01:00:41] Richie: [01:00:41] Just great spectators. Watch them crossing the road late at night with no street lamps. Um, but yeah,
[01:00:50] Dan: [01:00:50] army a
[01:00:50] Richie: [01:00:50] story from that. You have to wait for my second book for the, for the insight behind those years.
[01:00:55] Chris: [01:00:55] Question six, if you were the last person on earth, what would you still do? I think we already have the [01:01:00] answer to this.
[01:01:00] Now,
[01:01:06] Richie: [01:01:06] if it was a restless human on earth, what would I do? Um, Well, yeah, I I'd go and find all the best surf spots. I'd I'd, I'd, I'd find a, a van and I'd travel the travel, the
[01:01:20] Dan: [01:01:20] world to
[01:01:21] Richie: [01:01:21] see in a tent with my surf board, my skateboard and my yoga mat. And I'd just go and just explore the beautiful planet that we've destroyed.
[01:01:31] Um, so yeah. Yeah, I think I would go and live out my days. Just like I intend to now, even with people are still on the planet is to go and just really make the most of every day. And, um, spending time in nature is a great way to put that in perspective. I feel,
[01:01:51] Chris: [01:01:51] I feel you're perfectly primed for it.
[01:01:53] Question seven, if you could broadcast the message to everyone on earth, what would it be?
[01:02:00] [01:02:00] Richie: [01:02:00] Do not waste a single second embrace urgency around the clock bean, the clock ticking. Yeah. And I really
[01:02:15] Dan: [01:02:15] feel
[01:02:16] Richie: [01:02:16] that we need to, I think maybe should keep it at that, but it's just like find urgency in doing everything you need to go and get done and do not waste a single second on things that you do not control and go out and grab it by the balls and go and give it your best effort.
[01:02:37] And if things aren't quite going to plan, or there are some obstacles work around them, go over them, but do not give up, get after it. Time is ticking.
[01:02:48] Chris: [01:02:48] Think about, um, speed and velocity. And I, I think more in terms of velocity, which is speed in a given direction. So like if you can point yourself in the right direction, that speed is important, but if you're just going [01:03:00] speedy around in a circle, you're going to burn yourself out.
[01:03:02] So that's my mental model for that question. Hey, what advice should young people ignore?
[01:03:10] Richie: [01:03:10] Kind of glad I pause then before I
[01:03:12] Dan: [01:03:12] said, my first answer
[01:03:17] Richie: [01:03:17] still wants to creep back in, but I'm fighting it. Um, go on, uh, having your dream squashed and expectations of others and not, and after what your heart is really screaming at you to go, and I was going to say education, I'll tell you what
[01:03:39] Chris: [01:03:39] I was education. We've had 15 episodes or 16 episodes. And nearly everyone has said education.
[01:03:46] Richie: [01:03:46] Yeah. I mean, I didn't have the best time when I was, I was in my, uh, educational period, uh, through schools, Ruby, the lifeline that actually probably got me through it, if I'm being honest. And [01:04:00] when that was taken away, I, uh, I, I didn't go down the right path that's for sure. So I would just say, be mindful of what people are telling you.
[01:04:12] Isn't there, even now it's like, right. Where's our education coming from? Is it a valuable source and a credible source that you respect that is actually practicing what they preach? And if you could be that, if you could look at that as a teacher or as an educator or, or social media guru, you know, what are they saying?
[01:04:30] How is it resonating with you? Did he back it up? Is it legit? Is it speaking to you? Remember your in control, your future is in your hand. The world is wide open right now.
[01:04:40] Chris: [01:04:40] Yeah. Why with the model education versus learning? What's the education?
[01:04:45] Dan: [01:04:45] Educate
[01:04:46] Chris: [01:04:46] question 10, finish the sentence. Oh, sorry. No question nine.
[01:04:49] If you feel overwhelmed, what do you instinctively do?
[01:04:54] Dan: [01:04:54] Breathe
[01:04:57] Richie: [01:04:57] and breathe again. And
[01:04:59] Dan: [01:04:59] take a deeper [01:05:00] breath.
[01:05:01] Richie: [01:05:01] Let it out a little bit slower. If I need to break that cycle of overwhelm, I get up. I get outside. I move, I release it anyway. I can don't feed into it.
[01:05:15] Chris: [01:05:15] Good answer man. Question 10. Last question.
[01:05:18] Finish this sentence. At the end of the day, it all comes down to
[01:05:24] Richie: [01:05:24] taking responsibility for yourself. That's good. And doing something about
[01:05:29] Dan: [01:05:29] it. Hmm. Yeah,
[01:05:32] Chris: [01:05:32] that's a really good answer. I think that that is something that sometimes is demonized. You know, that idea of like, you know, um, taking self responsibility and being a little bit selfish about your health and that kind of stuff.
[01:05:42] Sometimes people feel like it's the wrong thing to do, but I feel personally feel that if you start with your own South. You know, when your cup is full, you can go share, right. You know, when you have taken responsibility for your own actions, your own emotions, your own health, et cetera, dentist's time to go out and tell other people what to [01:06:00] do similar to what you've done, Richie, you know, but that's it for the quickfire questions.
[01:06:04] Richie has been a pleasure, man. You know, I think I don't often throw the word inspiration on around, but for me personally, I find someone like you to be, um, inspirational, you know, the way you live your life out loud. And thankfully you decided to do it. I'm on a platform where we can all kind of witness, um, you know, what you want to present, or, you know, the parts of yourself that you want to present.
[01:06:26] And I certainly can have taken away some from some stuff from it. I dip in and out of your a G lives and different things. And you, the way you act and you know, the fact that you're trying your best to lift that vibe for people, you know, it really does resonate with me. And I think you're, you're, you're a great dude.
[01:06:43] Noel: [01:06:43] So, and this is something that I suppose personally, professionally as a psychotherapist, we talk lots about, you know, what you're surrounding yourself with, you know, with social media and different stuff like that. I'd highly recommend to have Richie on your feed. You don't always have to be looking at it, [01:07:00] but it's, he, it's a fantastic, um, he's, uh, he is and what he.
[01:07:04] Talks about it and puts out there is a fantastic tool for you. So if you're looking for something that to have in your, in your mental health toolbox, absolutely follow him there. And his YouTube videos are fantastic to have, and the message that he puts out because as he said, he keeps it genuine. Sorry.
[01:07:21] He keeps it simple, but he is honest and, and con and is very genuine. So I definitely appreciate that.
[01:07:29] Chris: [01:07:29] Where can we find your church? Uh, for all the people who perhaps don't know where to look and what should they be looking for and where should they be looking.
[01:07:37] Dan: [01:07:37] So, I guess still Instagram is
[01:07:39] Richie: [01:07:39] where I tend to be the most punctual and consistent, especially with the live stuff that I do there.
[01:07:45] And the spontaneous check-ins that I feel we all need Instagram,
[01:07:49] Dan: [01:07:49] um, which is Richie Norton on the score. Um, but the website now is becoming, um, a living, breathing
[01:07:57] Richie: [01:07:57] organism right now as things change. So that's the, [01:08:00] the strength, temple.co.uk, where you'll find where I'm teaching and workshops and things like that.
[01:08:05] And my coaching. So I'd say between the two, you won't really go wrong. You'll be able to find me somewhere,
[01:08:11] Chris: [01:08:11] super stuff. This concludes the episode. So again, thank you very much for coming on. The book is lift your vibe. Everybody go out and pre-order now I think it's on Amazon. I dunno how, but I think it's already a best seller and it's not even out yet.
[01:08:24] So go check, go check it out. And, uh, rich. Thank you very much, man.
[01:08:30] Richie: [01:08:30] Thank you. Appreciate it.
[01:08:37] Dan: [01:08:37] This has been yet another episode of the one DMC podcast. Big, thanks to Richie for coming on. What a guy, what a cool dude. I definitely want to be like Richie when I'm all grown up. If that ever happens well. Yeah. Huge. Thanks everyone for listening this week. If you enjoyed it, please be sure to like, and share with your friends.
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